Re: 515 and 525 user licensing

Just to add more to the mix (and Larry is right on with his information. He must have sat through the same, agonizingly detailed BP presentations as I did) .

If you are running a Linux LPAR, you don't need UE's for any users (real or imagined) that access resources within the partition. So, if you had a PHP app running against a MySQL database within that partition, you need no UE's. None. If, however, you access System i resources (DB for example) then UE's apply.

Where things get interesting is if you have an IXA/IXS running Windows accessing the System i then do you pay for Windows CAL's and System i UE's? I can't remember, but perhaps I dozed off during that part.

The reality here, and Larry said it, is this is based in large part in System i owners policing themselves. Given the way they have structured the licensing there is no automated way they could ever count "persons".

Pete Helgren

albartell wrote:

On another note,
when you install PHP it creates/uses two profiles: ZENDADMIN and ZENDTECH, so I guess PHP just cost me $500? (2 users at $250 as per Pete Heldgrens
email)

Here I think those users would NOT count. They are there to own and operate

ZEND PHP. They do not constitute real users >with actual fingers so they
would be 'free'.
I am guessing that they would have software to help track profiles and keep
accurate counts? I can see a shop with good intentions not tallying up
everything correctly because of the number of apps running on the iSeries
and then inherently the number of application specific profiles. I can't
see IBM being organized enough to know that ZENDTECH and ZENDADMIN were
*free* profiles vs. ones that should be charged for. Sure these are easier
to spot than others, but that isn't always going to be the case.
Anyways...doing the honor system usually means those that are honest pay
more because the dishonest don't honor - and I would be one that would honor
so I would be paying up the butt! Now I am back to this not making logical
sales sense though I do believe I understand the situation better (if that
makes sense).


Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com