Zounds!!
the $373 manual referenced below is the one I have (-02) [Nov 1993] .. current
for r2v3 ..
it is grossly out-of-date
while it is very good for DST and SST, it includes internal structures like the
VLIC task structure [TDE / TCB] .. and detailed explanations of most of the
internal 'logs' ..
as IBM moved to 'wrap' the i-series as an 'enigma' (and built the 'great wall'
between 'system and user state') it apparently has supressed this level of
detail -- when it moved to RISC -
much as it did in S/38 days when all of the 'internals' manuals ceased public
availability -
P. Barber's cited Hardware link has essestials of some of the content but
reference to 'contact your service provider' leaves me cold as in general one
is their own 'service provider'
date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 09:56:54 -0400
from: Pat Barber <mboceanside@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Diagnostic Aids -- LY44-0597
Those are a CE set of manuals and are very rarely/ever needed by
a normal customer with hardware maintenance.
I agree that the manual situation is terrible but this is what
you get when you want "cheap/cheaper/cheapest" hardware.
I sell lots of computer hardware othe than IBM and almost none
of it comes with a manual. A fold-out instruction sheet is
the "norm" for almost any piece of gear these days.
Sharon Wintermute wrote:
And yet another reason to drop the i5 (My company's opinion).
Manuals should not be that high.
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message: 3
date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 09:57:32 -0400
from: rob@xxxxxxxxx
subject: RE: Diagnostic Aids -- LY44-0597
I agree they are overpriced. However online manuals are much better.
Perhaps they overprice them as a favor to those who are encouraging
coworkers to use the online versions?
Textbooks are different than manuals. Those I like printed for their
mobility. (I don't like to take the laptop into the restroom. Bad enough
to sit in there with a cell phone in one ear and a portable phone in the
other.)
Rob Berendt
midrange.com
