RE: Erasing DASD-decommission an AS400

[Don <dr2@xxxxxxxx>]

Yup.... a .50 cal round does a great job of putting a hurt on a set of 
platters...

Also, if it's REALLY that sensitive, break out your tool box, take out the 
DASD, take it appart, take your screwdriver or an old nail and do a few 
etch streaks accros the platter, then give it to your kids to play frizbee 
with...:)



At 03:03 PM 1/16/2007 -0500, you wrote:
> Yeah, but for smaller shops you're going to spend more on that machine
> that what the drives are worth in trade in.
> Besides, it doesn't hurt to have friends who like to hang out at the rifle
> range.
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> http://www.deadondemand.com/products/digitalshredder/ is a little more
> gentle than the rifle range (the drives can be re-used).  And it is
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> Sufficient for me?  Yes.
> Sufficient for DOD?  No.
> Click on the link at the bottom of the link you sent us:
> Does the IBM(r) iSeries(tm) Initialize Its Disk Units to the DoD
> 5220.22-M Standard?
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> You could try the boot from CD or tape method.  Then follow it up with a
> few good old boys and a rifle range.
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> This IBM document says to IPL off of a SavSys21 tape to initialize DASD
> on an AS400 prior to decommissioning a system.
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> I am familiar with DOD specs of writing random strings of data in 7-9
> passes to disks to really "delete" the data.  Alternately there are
> system (PC based of course) that write strings of zeros to data areas.
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> Anyone know if just initializing the disks and adding them to an ASP
> will be sufficient?
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