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Yup.... a .50 cal round does a great job of putting a hurt on a set of platters...

Also, if it's REALLY that sensitive, break out your tool box, take out the DASD, take it appart, take your screwdriver or an old nail and do a few etch streaks accros the platter, then give it to your kids to play frizbee with...:)



At 03:03 PM 1/16/2007 -0500, you wrote:
Yeah, but for smaller shops you're going to spend more on that machine
that what the drives are worth in trade in.
Besides, it doesn't hurt to have friends who like to hang out at the rifle
range.

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http://www.deadondemand.com/products/digitalshredder/ is a little more
gentle than the rifle range (the drives can be re-used).  And it is
DoD-compliant.


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Sufficient for me?  Yes.
Sufficient for DOD?  No.
Click on the link at the bottom of the link you sent us:
Does the IBM(r) iSeries(tm) Initialize Its Disk Units to the DoD
5220.22-M Standard?
http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/SLKBase.nsf/643d2723f2907f0b8625661300765a2
a/50137ca2b4a65be086256e2900743197?OpenDocument

You could try the boot from CD or tape method.  Then follow it up with a
few good old boys and a rifle range.

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This IBM document says to IPL off of a SavSys21 tape to initialize DASD
on an AS400 prior to decommissioning a system.

I am familiar with DOD specs of writing random strings of data in 7-9
passes to disks to really "delete" the data.  Alternately there are
system (PC based of course) that write strings of zeros to data areas.

Anyone know if just initializing the disks and adding them to an ASP
will be sufficient?

Jerry

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