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Good point, and I wholeheartedly agree. In fact, I rarely do this. And only am suggesting it for those who are in the 95%+ disk used and are in a panic. We often have test ptf's on and if you permanently apply one of them and IBM has to reissue it, then you are toast until IBM issues a superceed. And they'll hate you if they have to issue a superceed just because you permanently applied a test ptf. Normally I only permanently apply ptf's shortly before upgrading to the next release. In which case I strongly recommend first. Failure to do so may result in several orphan save files from temporarily applied ptf's staying on your system forever. Example: I am on VxRa. I put on PTF UU12345. This ptf has a fix for QMYPGM in QMYLIB. As part of the ptf process the old QMYLIB/QMYPGM is saved into a save file QUU12345J1. Then the new QMYLIB/QMYPGM is restored over top of the old one. If I RMVPTF UU12345 it will delete that program and restore the one out of the save file. If I permanently apply UU12345 it will delete the save file QUU12345J1. This is where the big space savings come from when you permanently apply ptf's. Now, if I don't permanently apply UU12345, and I put on VxRb I may have this save file, QUU12345J1, on there forever. There is one more argument against applying ptf's permanently unless you are absolutely sure. I don't see it so much anymore but I used to see things like if you put on this ptf for Sametime then you have to remove ptf such-and-such for domino, put on the sametime ptf and reapply the domino ptf. Near as I can figure it is that the integration checking for superceed ptf's restoring the same object wasn't all that sharp in the earlier days of domino and sametime. Rob Berendt
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