Re: Another one bites the dust

Probably because IBM, SAP, and consulting companies make more money when
it's not on i5. License dollars and services dollars is where it's at.
Selling h/w and s/w itself isn't the continuing revenue stream that you can
get from services. Just think, if some consulting business had three Oracle
DBAs in that company every day...day after day...billing away, they could
make a ton of money. Now suppose that that company moves to i5. The contract
Oracle DBAs go away. And now you've got some old guy (like me) that can
manage the whole thing. That's lots of dollars that aren't being spent
anymore. Great for the customer, bad for the services company.

And there are some great consulting companies - like the ones on this list -
that would advocate the best solution for the customer. But...not all
consulting companies are that interested in their customer's welfare. And,
not all consulting companies go outside their comfort zone. If they have
Oracle people on staff, they pitch an Oracle solution. When your only tool
is a hammer, all your problems look like nails. Such is business...

On 12/12/06, Hauser, Birgitta <Birgitta.Hauser@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

I just recently talked with someone, whose company moved to iSeries,
running
SAP on it. Before they run SAP with an Oracle Database. He said, half a
day
Oracle DBAs did nothing else than readjusting table spaces. Since they run
SAP on the iSeries no intervention to the database is necessary anymore.
His comment was: "Working with SAP on an iSeries is a dream!"

I know it won't help, but sometimes I wonder why such stories get not
published.

Birgitta

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cassidy, Alan
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 23:56
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Subject: RE: Another one bites the dust


        ==> I was "on the bench" 2005 a few months, "not enough
programmers"
for the IBM midrange/System i just sounds funny...

...If they offered equivalent pay for their System i programming needs,
from
what I've heard the Oracle DBAs and application "tweakers" are paid, they
could get all the experience they want for programming anything they want
on
the the System i. And they won't go years and years past deadline and
millions over budget like Oracle conversions.

...Last place I was at they were replacing the company's systems with
Oracle. German parent company had decreed this change worldwide. They had
a
couple of dozen guys in Atlanta working full-time on just that and they
were
already a year into it.

Met an Oracle saleman on my trip to Redwood City for my daughter's
wedding.
He told me that the JDE World shops were stubborn and they just couldn't
pry
them off the platform. Haha. I think it's new IT directors and managers
that
just don't know what they're losing that make these decisions. And I think
we are going to be responsible for our own future to get the word out,
partners, programmers, users that know..

I think it's okay to bring these things up again each occasion like this
to
keep it fresh in our minds and to help keep a growing "mind share" here.
(A
hopeful "trickle up" theory :) ...)

--Alan

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