Re: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch

We can dream can't we, and I am not an 'average" programmer  :) but IMEO
this would ROCK.....

hmmm,, time to play a little.....

On 12/11/06, M Lazarus <mlazarus@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Trevor,

Having an HTTP server does NOT match my definition of GUI.  I want to be
able to (at least start to) GUI'ize my applications by using the EXFMT
keyword (maybe w/ some extensions) and not have to have multiple
"threads" within the program whether the client is a browser or green
screen.  This would make a basic browser session within reach of the
average RPG programmer.

I believe that it would be used FAR more than anything that is available
now, in short time - giving the applications programs a large facelift.
More sophisticated techniques could be added later, depending on the
user's programming proficiency and the capabilities IBM is will to build
in.  I'm sure that they could tap into many existing routines to get the
job done, so it would be a "from the ground up" effort.

-mark


> Mark,
>
> Most people here know my thoughts on this. GUI can improve productivity
by
> 30 to 80 percent. And, it costs MORE for green training in today's
modern
> world. Data entry is human-error-prone outdated and can be replaced by
> myriads of choices. Green screen is simply kept for familiarity and
> resistance to change.
>
> I think that the System i can ALREADY be defined as matching the GUI
> definition you have - it has an HTTP server. I think it is YOUR
> applications
> that are not up to speed. That is what is giving the System i the bad
rep
> -
> not the OS..
>
> Trevor
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "M. Lazarus" <mlazarus@xxxxxxxx>
> To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 12:16 AM
> Subject: Re: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch
>
>
>> Trevor,
>>
>>  For the record, from a practical, business data entry standpoint, I
>> don't think that a GUI has a major advantage over green screen (the
>> exception being navigation.)  In fact, it may be a hindrance.  But,
>> when it comes to identifying a screen / panel as being modern of old,
>> a half decent GUI will look and fell more comfortable to the average
>> user and manager and person in a software purchasing position.
>>
>>  Enhancing an application is a lot different than making it a
>> crucial part of your application.  If I require a third party GUI
>> application to market together with my software, then it's usually a
>> non-starter.  It might be OK as an optional component.
>>
>>  BUT, and here's the key, you can throw as many 3rd party GUI
>> vendors as you out there into the mix, but the system won't be known
>> in the marketplace as having a native GUI.
>>
>>  As far as the name is concerned, if IBM was truly pushing the brand
>> name - AND added the modern, very visible components, then I think
>> that it would make a difference.  Anything else and it doesn't make
>> much difference.
>>
>>
>>  -mark
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