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Yep - you are right. I also added the "apples to apples" thing, but he still compared different things. I think his apple may have a worm in it?

And, what I find interesting is that few companies actually ever run more than one application on a single Windows server at the same time. Multiple applications on an i are something we are just used to...

Oh well, back to my mac... I think it has a Power4 in it..

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 2:41 PM
Subject: RE: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch


From: Trevor Perry

I expect that 4x faster is just a number you made up. And it was not
considering apples to apples.

Trevor, you can try to fight this battle, but Steve really just brings up
the exact same argument.  He specifically ignores the concept of number of
users and TCO, and just hammers on the one-note song of "price/performance".

Interestingly enough, even the reference he cites, which compares various
iSeries models with a "comparable" Dell, shows that the price per user for
the new iSeries models is far LOWER than the Dell.

The $22000 p5 machine he's talking about is a little 4-processor machine
with two disk arms.  I don't know about you, but I've got a machine with
more than half that horsepower (dual 3.2 Xeons and 150GB of 15K disk) as my
workstation and I can bog it down all by myself.  I'd be interested to see
how many developers you can get going on the p5 he's talking about. Whereas
I KNOW you can get a whole bunch of people working on an iSeries 520.

Joe


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