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Al, When you need to drive a nail, do you make your own hammer, or do you go buy one? There are tools that allow you to do everything you have described. Does your boss still use a Windows 3.1 PC? With all due respect, not paying software maintenance fees can be penny wise and pound foolish, especially with regard to the IBM software. IBM gets real cranky if you don't keep current. I have one client in Indiana who let their V5R2 agreement expire (maybe it's an Indiana thing). They are looking at a currency fee of $32,000 just to renew their contract so that they could pay to get a new contract for the operating system. Guess what? The Microsoft people got their hooks into that company, and they are going to the dark side and abandoning the best platform and application software for their business. Just like the commercial said, "You can pay me now or pay me later". My 2 cents -- Paul Nelson Arbor Solutions, Inc. 708-670-6978 Cell pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx -----midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: ----- To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx From: Al Mac <macwheel99@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Date: 12/05/2006 12:29PM Subject: Re: trimming trailing blanks in spooled output... Thanks Paul I also have fried tapes ... just about anything can get fried, so I believe in redundancy for any long term storage off-line. Different things fail different ways. I not sufficiently an expert on the technology to know how come some things have died, other than the obvious tangle. I suspect shelf life, and tapes being stored flat instead of on edge. My general rule of storage thumb ... if it is comfortable for humans, ALL THE TIME, including when humans not there, it is probably safe for magnetic media. Almost every time we have done a hardware upgrade, the tape media evolves, so we are at high risk of having our archives on tapes that are for hardware no longer available. I knew one place that had a burglary, they went to their directory of hardware resources & found they could not replace their backup hardware, so their offsite backups no good for that reason (not an AS/400 reality). Fortunately for us, several of the 3rd party outfits have a museum of old working S/34 S/36 you name it, so that if some client needs to access some archives, they can do it, provided the media is readable. Auditors recently changed for us because top owners changed. I expect they will have a learning curve. I strive to get them what they ask for, on whatever media they ask for it on, but also warn them in advance. This report, that you asking for, will be XXX,XXX pages, in a format that cannot be imported into Excel, and it will be unintelligible to Microsoft, using the technology our company has invested in so far. I recently modified one of the General Ledger reports so its output is intelligible to Microsoft, and I am getting a parade of requests to run THAT program for various past fiscal periods accounts. This tells me that there has been some progress on a learning curve, with respect to some of what I had been trying to communicate. They got what they asked for, and it did not help them. Then they got a new version of the software for last end month, and want that new version retroactive, vs. the original old data. Getting them reports they need on a one time basis, that recently got run, is a different challenge than figuring out what to do with reports from a year ago that we need to keep, not know when someone will want access. Right now my boss has got me running ragged, creating reports and sending them to Excel, because he is more comfortable figuring things out from there, than from the original application's DB2. I have developed tons of purge programs, over time add more. We are still on V5R1 because of a reluctance to pay through the nose for BPCS license move off our AS/400 model 170 to another box. Some day it will die of old age, and we'll have to address how to get our stuff to a box that accepts V5R1, migrate as high as it will go, then do again on a contemporary box. - Al Macintyre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AlMac http://www.ryze.com/go/Al9Mac BPCS/400 Computer Janitor ... see http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/11/08/bpcsDocSources.html -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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