Re: Weird sign on problems

[Wayne McAlpine <wayne.mcalpine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Second to last paragraph should read:

If this is indeed the case, you need to check your startup program to
verify that subsystem RFINTER gets *started* before QINTER.

Wayne McAlpine wrote:
> I think I know what the problem is.  It has to do with the order in 
> which the subsystems are started.  If I understand correctly, you do not 
> have any workstation name entries in QINTER, just workstation types.
>
> On the other hand, you have a workstation name entry in RFINTER for 
> QPADEV* and no workstation type entries.
>
> If you start QINTER first, it will allocate all workstations that are 
> varied on and that match one of the workstation types.  If RFINTER is 
> started after QINTER, it will allocate workstations by name (which takes 
> precedence over type), but only if they have not already been allocated 
> by QINTER.  Workstations that become varied on after RFINTER is started 
> will always be allocated to RFINTER.
>
> If this is indeed the case, you need to check your startup program to 
> verify that subsystem RFINTER gets varied on *before* QINTER.  That way 
> none of the QPADEV* workstations will allocate to QINTER.
>
> Does this make sense?
>
>
>
> Nick_Radich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > Wayne,
> >
> >
> > All of the Scanners use QPADEV* as a naming convention.  That is why 
> > we use QPADEV* for subsystem RFINTER.
> >
> > This was setup before I got here.  Maybe  I will change the Scanners 
> > to start with RF*, or SCAN*.  It makes more sense.
> >
> > Our workstations are the User's User IDs, if they are on the network 
> > with a PC.  We do have a couple of dumb twinax terminals on the Plant 
> > floor that start with DSP*, though.
> >
> > For myself, my UserID is NRADIC1 and all of my Sessions start with 
> > NRADIC*.  These are set up through the Client Access 
> > Communication/Configure window.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > Nick Radich
> > Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> > EPC Molding, Inc.
> > Direct  (320) 679-6683
> > Toll free  (800) 388-2155  ext. 6683
> > Fax  (320) 679-4516
> > nick_radich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> > Wayne McAlpine <wayne.mcalpine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: 
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> >
> >
> > But aren't your RFINTER devices named RF*?  If so, that should be the 
> > only entry under workstation names.  Or are you using the same QPA* 
> > devices for both the scanners and your normal workstations?
> >
> > Nick_Radich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > Wayne,
> > >
> > > In my RFINTER Subsystem, the only entry for WS Names is the generic 
> > > "QPADEV*" entry.
> > >
> > > When I went down to her PC and tried some testing, I blanked out the 
> > > Workstation ID in the Configure panel of her Client Access.  I then 
> > > started the session back up, and the correct Signon screen we use for 
> > > Scanning came up, just as it normally does.  It came up in Subsystem 
> > > RFINTER and used the correct Workstation ID of QPADEV****.
> > >
> > > Is there a reason I should not use Workstation Type Entries?
> > >
> > > All of our scanners work fine, and have been since first use, about 3 
> > > years ago.  Her Workstation is the only one that tries to jump around.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanx,
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nick Radich
> > > Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> > > EPC Molding, Inc.
> > > Direct  (320) 679-6683
> > > Toll free  (800) 388-2155  ext. 6683
> > > Fax  (320) 679-4516
> > > nick_radich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Wayne McAlpine <wayne.mcalpine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: 
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> > > 10/25/06 01:49 PM
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> > > Re: Weird sign on problems
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nick, in RFINTER there shouldn't be any workstation type entries and 
> > > there shouldn't be any workstation name entries except one that 
> > > corresponds to a generic entry, i.e., RF*, for the scanning devices.
> > >
> > > Your RF subsystem is managing to allocate normal workstation devices 
> > > because of an incorrect workstation name or type entry.
> > >
> > > Nick_Radich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > For RFINTER I get  "QPADEV*" for WS name entries, and the type is 5251.
> > > >
> > > > For QINTER I get no WS name entries, and types of:  "CONS", 3179, 3180, 
> >
> > > > 3196, 3197, 3277, 3278, 3279, 3476, 3477, 3486 and 3487.
> > > >
> > > > Nick Radich
> > > > Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> > > > EPC Molding, Inc.
> > > > Direct  (320) 679-6683
> > > > Toll free  (800) 388-2155  ext. 6683
> > > > Fax  (320) 679-4516
> > > > nick_radich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Léo Lefebvre <leo@xxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > 10/25/06 10:30 AM
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> > > > Re: Weird sign on problems
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Then, check the "work station name entries" and "work station type 
> > > > entries" in the Sub-System description(s)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Leo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nick_Radich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yup,  I looked at that, and it was the correct Workstation ID for her, 
> >
> > > > > RWHITE1.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanx
> > > > >
> > > > > Nick Radich
> > > > > Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> > > > > EPC Molding, Inc.
> > > > > Direct  (320) 679-6683
> > > > > Toll free  (800) 388-2155  ext. 6683
> > > > > Fax  (320) 679-4516
> > > > > nick_radich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jonathan Mason" <jonathan.mason@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: 
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> > > > > RE: Weird sign on problems
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you checked the workstation name assigned in the Client Access 
> > > > > session
> > > > > configuration?  Click on the "Communication" menu and then select
> > > > > "Configuration".  There is a field where the Workstation ID can be
> > > > > specified.  If you leave it blank it will try to connect to a virtual
> > > > > device.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jonathan
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > > > > Nick_Radich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Sent: 25 October 2006 16:09
> > > > > To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: Weird sign on problems
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a User that gets the following on her SignOn screen, at least 
> > > once
> > > > > a
> > > > > week.  I guess it has been happening for years, but I have only been 
> > > here
> > > > > for 2 years and just found out about it.  I have never seen, nor 
> > heard,
> > > > > anything like this.
> > > > >
> > > > > She can eventually sign on after a few tries.
> > > > >
> > > > > We are at V4R5 of the OS, and V4.3 of Client Access Express.
> > > > >
> > > > > It appears that her workstation is trying to sign into the RFINTER
> > > > > Subsystem, and not QINTER?  We use RFINTER for our scanning guns.  The
> > > > > session ID should be RWHITE1, but it looks like CA is trying to use
> > > > > QPADEV0001?
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is a screen shot of what is on her screen.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [?3l[?7h[9;12H[?3l[?7h[1;1H[2J[0m   [1m[0m [1m  Sign On    [0m 
> > > > > [2;80H System  .:
> > > > > MORA1    [3;80H Subsystem: RFINTER    [4;80H Display .: QPADEV0001 
> > > > [8;80H
> > > > > User . . [4m[0m [4m          [0m [9;80H Password  [0m           [0m 
> > > > > [13;1H Welcome t
> > > > > o MAPICS/XA [24;39H[1m[0m [1m (C) COPYRIGHT IBM CORP. 1980, 1999. 
> > > > > [0m [9;12H[
> > > > > 9;12H[9;12H[?3l[?7h[1;1H[2J   [1m[0m [1m  Sign On    [0m [2;80H System 
> >
> > > .:
> > > > > MORA1
> > > > >    [3;80H Subsystem: RFINTER    [4;80H Display .: QPADEV0001 [8;80H 
> > > User
> > > > > . . [
> > > > > 4m[0m [4m          [0m [9;80H Password  [0m           [0m [13;1H 
> > > Welcome
> > > > > to MAPI
> > > > > CS/XA [23;80H[1m[0m [1mCPF1296 - Sign-on information required. 
> > > > >                       [9;12H[9;12H[0m
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone seen anything like this?  Or is this from the aliens 
> > > > > that landed
> > > > > in North Dakota?  :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciatted.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanx,
> > > > >
> > > > > Nick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Nick Radich
> > > > > Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> > > > > EPC Molding, Inc.
> > > > > Direct  (320) 679-6683
> > > > > Toll free  (800) 388-2155  ext. 6683
> > > > > Fax  (320) 679-4516
> > > > > nick_radich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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