Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?

Don in DC


At 11:01 AM 10/24/2006 -0400, you wrote:

A lot of it is cost. I can remember when I was with a data comm company, and
we would exhibit at the big shows in DC and Atlanta. It was very, very
expensive. I dunno if that's changed, but that's the way ir was.

On 10/24/06, Rebecca.Perdue@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <Rebecca.Perdue@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
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> Why does no one ever use the Washington, DC or Atlanta area?  There are
> also nice facilities in the Research Triangle of Raleigh.
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>    1. RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?
>       (Mike Cunningham)
>    2. RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists? (Al Barsa)
>    3. Email relaying with authentication? (lgoodbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
>    4. Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And COMMON
>       Focus in Columbus (jimo)
>    5. Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And COMMON
>       Focus in           Columbus (pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx)
>    6. RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And COMMON
>       Focus inColumbus (Haase, Justin C.)
>    7. UPS connection (Bonnie Lokenvitz)
>    8. RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists? (Chuck Lewis)
>    9. Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists? (Michael Ryan)
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> message: 1
> date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:33:35 -0400
> from: "Mike Cunningham" <MCUNNING@xxxxxxx>
> subject: RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?
>
> So, it sounds like the Northeast/MidAtlantic region is prime for a new
> "conference city" that is affordable. Maybe I will talk to our
> Mayor....
>
> Yes, COMMON at Toronto was nice and I did attend that one and drove.
> Same for when COMMON was in Baltimore. For me it's a 3 hour drive to any
> major airport (usually to one of the cities I mentioned in my first
> posting), if that was also the final destination it would be a lot
> easier to arrange and justify to my employer.
>
> I understand the economics for the conference organizers but it would
> be nice if all three of the ones I referenced would spread themselves
> out.  It may be that we pick the Boston conference as our yearly
> destination.
>
> >>> Jon.Paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/24/2006 12:09 AM >>>
>
> >> Seems like all the major iSeries conferences have forgotten about us
> in
> the Northeast ...
>
> Well COMMON was in Toronto only a year ago ... Minneapolis after that.
> Those are both in driving distance from most of the locations you
> mention.
> Chicago wasn't that long ago either.
>
> NY, NJ, Boston have all pretty much priced themselves out of the market
> and
> travel is too horrific for anyone locally to want to go.  Same problem
> in
> some respects with conferences in LA - can't get the locals.
>
> When I was working with RPG World we ran one conference in Chicago (did
> OK)
> and more recently in Cleveland (a total bust).  Whether one likes it or
> not,
> a fair percentage of likely attendees prefer to pick destination
> cities.
> That means Miami, San Diego, San Francisco, Orlando, and Vegas.  There
> are a
> few others but those are where you can guarantee an audience.  So if I
> run a
> conference in the Northeast and one in one of those cities - guess
> which one
> everyone will save their pennies for?
>
> Couple of other points:
>
> Vegas hotel rooms are typically cheaper than elsewhere - subsequently
> any
> difference in air fare is moot.  Frankly distance is not a huge
> differentiator in air fares - I can quite often go from Toronto to LA
> for
> less than I can get to Chicago for example.  So unless you are in
> driving
> distance, location makes very little difference to the fares.
>
> When we run the first of our new conferences next spring it will
> almost
> certainly be on the west coast, we may run one in the east in the fall
> - but
> even then there's no way NJ, NY or Boston will be on the list.
>
> Jon Paris
> Partner400
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> ------------------------------
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> message: 2
> date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:41:25 -0400
> from: Al Barsa <barsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> subject: RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?
>
> Toronto was really nice.
>
> Baltimore was not.  Hotels were bad and the convention center was huge.
>
> Boston was good, if we could keep it in the hotel.  COMMON is now small
> enough that we should be able to keep it in a hotel, and avoid all
> convention centers in the future after Anaheim.
>
> Al
>
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>              AM                        Northeast exists?
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>
>
> So, it sounds like the Northeast/MidAtlantic region is prime for a new
> "conference city" that is affordable. Maybe I will talk to our
> Mayor....
>
> Yes, COMMON at Toronto was nice and I did attend that one and drove.
> Same for when COMMON was in Baltimore. For me it's a 3 hour drive to any
> major airport (usually to one of the cities I mentioned in my first
> posting), if that was also the final destination it would be a lot
> easier to arrange and justify to my employer.
>
> I understand the economics for the conference organizers but it would
> be nice if all three of the ones I referenced would spread themselves
> out.  It may be that we pick the Boston conference as our yearly
> destination.
>
> >>> Jon.Paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/24/2006 12:09 AM >>>
>
> >> Seems like all the major iSeries conferences have forgotten about us
> in
> the Northeast ...
>
> Well COMMON was in Toronto only a year ago ... Minneapolis after that.
> Those are both in driving distance from most of the locations you
> mention.
> Chicago wasn't that long ago either.
>
> NY, NJ, Boston have all pretty much priced themselves out of the market
> and
> travel is too horrific for anyone locally to want to go.  Same problem
> in
> some respects with conferences in LA - can't get the locals.
>
> When I was working with RPG World we ran one conference in Chicago (did
> OK)
> and more recently in Cleveland (a total bust).  Whether one likes it or
> not,
> a fair percentage of likely attendees prefer to pick destination
> cities.
> That means Miami, San Diego, San Francisco, Orlando, and Vegas.  There
> are a
> few others but those are where you can guarantee an audience.  So if I
> run a
> conference in the Northeast and one in one of those cities - guess
> which one
> everyone will save their pennies for?
>
> Couple of other points:
>
> Vegas hotel rooms are typically cheaper than elsewhere - subsequently
> any
> difference in air fare is moot.  Frankly distance is not a huge
> differentiator in air fares - I can quite often go from Toronto to LA
> for
> less than I can get to Chicago for example.  So unless you are in
> driving
> distance, location makes very little difference to the fares.
>
> When we run the first of our new conferences next spring it will
> almost
> certainly be on the west coast, we may run one in the east in the fall
> - but
> even then there's no way NJ, NY or Boston will be on the list.
>
> Jon Paris
> Partner400
>
> www.Partner400.com
> www.SystemiDeveloper.com
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> message: 3
> date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:50:38 -0500
> from: lgoodbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> subject: Email relaying with authentication?
>
> We have a corporate project to migrate our mailboxes from Exchange 2000 to
> Exchange 2003. Part of the migration process is a discussion over allowing
> anonymous relaying from the internal network. Our iSeries is configured to
> use the Exchange server as its relay point. If corporate decides to use a
> form of SMTP relay authentication, does OS400 support this natively (SMTP
> with MSF)? How about running our own relay/SMTP server? We're at V5R2, and
> most of our email is handled with Brad Stone's MAILTOOL.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Loyd Goodbar
>
> Senior programmer/analyst
>
> BorgWarner
>
> E/TS Water Valley
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> 662-473-5713
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>
>
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> message: 4
> date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:31:05 -0500
> from: jimo <igor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> subject: Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And COMMON
>                  Focus in Columbus
>
> <snip>
> Good luck getting a hotel room that weekend. OSU is at home.
> </snip>
>
> Paul,
>
> We have already addressed this multiple times.  The game is on
> Saturday!!!!!  COMMON Focus starts Sunday!!!!
>
> The COMMON staff has already talked with the hotels and all is well.
> Besides that COMMON has a block of rooms for attendees.
>
> There will not be a problem getting hotel rooms for COMMON Focus!!!
>
> COMMON Focus will be in Columbus, Ohio, October 14 - 17, 2007.
>
> iGor:  aka:  Jim Oberholtzer, COMMON Director.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> message: 5
> date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:58:59 -0400
> from: pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
> subject: Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And COMMON
>                  Focus in                Columbus
>
>    OK. Glad to hear it.
>    --
>
>    Paul Nelson
>    Arbor Solutions, Inc.
>    708-670-6978  Cell
>    pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
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>      From: jimo <igor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>      Date: 10/24/2006 09:31AM
>      Subject: Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And
> COMMON
>      Focus in Columbus
>
>      <snip>
>      Good luck getting a hotel room that weekend. OSU is at home.
>      </snip>
>
>      Paul,
>
>      We have already addressed this multiple times.  The game is on
>      Saturday!!!!!  COMMON Focus starts Sunday!!!!
>
>      The COMMON staff has already talked with the hotels and all is well.
>      Besides that COMMON has a block of rooms for attendees.
>
>      There will not be a problem getting hotel rooms for COMMON Focus!!!
>
>      COMMON Focus will be in Columbus, Ohio, October 14 - 17, 2007.
>
>      iGor:  aka:  Jim Oberholtzer, COMMON Director.
>
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> message: 6
> date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:06:16 -0500
> from: "Haase, Justin C." <justin.haase@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> subject: RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And COMMON
>                  Focus inColumbus
>
> Who is this queen of disco?
> - Donna Summer
> And how does her name appear in the phone book?
> - Summer Donna
> Stretch it out now...
> - Summmmmmuh Daawwwwnnnna
> Little more now...
> - Summmmmmmmmuh Daaaaaannnnnaaa
> That's right!  SIMMA DOWN NOW!!!
>
> LOL... Good news on the hotel rooms.
>
>
> --
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> IBM Certified Systems Expert - System i
> Kingland Systems Corporation
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 8:59 AM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And COMMON
> Focus inColumbus
>
>    OK. Glad to hear it.
>    --
>
>    Paul Nelson
>    Arbor Solutions, Inc.
>    708-670-6978  Cell
>    pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
>    -----midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: -----
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>      To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>      From: jimo <igor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>      Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>      Date: 10/24/2006 09:31AM
>      Subject: Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?, And
> COMMON
>      Focus in Columbus
>
>      <snip>
>      Good luck getting a hotel room that weekend. OSU is at home.
>      </snip>
>
>      Paul,
>
>      We have already addressed this multiple times.  The game is on
>      Saturday!!!!!  COMMON Focus starts Sunday!!!!
>
>      The COMMON staff has already talked with the hotels and all is
> well.
>      Besides that COMMON has a block of rooms for attendees.
>
>      There will not be a problem getting hotel rooms for COMMON Focus!!!
>
>      COMMON Focus will be in Columbus, Ohio, October 14 - 17, 2007.
>
>      iGor:  aka:  Jim Oberholtzer, COMMON Director.
>
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> message: 7
> date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:17:54 -0400
> from: "Bonnie Lokenvitz" <BLokenvitz@xxxxxxxxxx>
> subject: UPS connection
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> Our network admin replaced the UPS on our 520.  Is there anyway from the
> AS/400 side
>
> to determine that all is well with the new UPS?  I see nothing in the
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> message: 8
> date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:28:17 -0400
> from: "Chuck Lewis" <chuck.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> subject: RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?
>
> What did you think of Indianapolis ?
>
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Al Barsa
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:41 AM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?
>
> Toronto was really nice.
>
> Baltimore was not.  Hotels were bad and the convention center was huge.
>
> Boston was good, if we could keep it in the hotel.  COMMON is now small
> enough that we should be able to keep it in a hotel, and avoid all
> convention centers in the future after Anaheim.
>
> Al
>
> Al Barsa, Jr.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> message: 9
> date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:38:49 -0400
> from: "Michael Ryan" <michaelrtr@xxxxxxxxx>
> subject: Re: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?
>
> I for one thought Indianapolis was great. Hotels were good, venue was
> good,
> and that steakhouse with the crazy hot shrimp cocktail was marvelous. I'm
> thinking of going back to Indianapolis just for dinner...it's about a 5
> hour
> drive.
>
> On 10/24/06, Chuck Lewis <chuck.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > What did you think of Indianapolis ?
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Al Barsa
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:41 AM
> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Did someone forget that the Northeast exists?
> >
> > Toronto was really nice.
> >
> > Baltimore was not.  Hotels were bad and the convention center was huge.
> >
> > Boston was good, if we could keep it in the hotel.  COMMON is now small
> > enough that we should be able to keep it in a hotel, and avoid all
> > convention centers in the future after Anaheim.
> >
> > Al
> >
> > Al Barsa, Jr.
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