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If you're at V5R3 or higher and are journaling your physicals, consider save-while-active to either radically shrink or eliminate your downtime window altogether. When we converted to it we stopped doing change object saves and do the equivalent of a *NONSYS every night. So we save more with less user downtime. John A. Jones, CISSP Americas Information Security Officer Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc. V: +1-630-455-2787 F: +1-312-601-1782 john.jones@xxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nick_Radich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:22 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: Nightly saves Bryan, We are on MAPICS XAR6 with V4R5 of the OS, and we do your options 1,2,3 and 6. We use ROBOT to schedule our backups. We have a custom CL for our backups. Ends subsystem QINTER and RFINTER, for our scanners, and starts subsystem Backup. Do a SAVLIB (Monday nights) and SAVCHGOBJ (other days of the week) to SAVFs. After each save to SAVF, I submit a job to do the actual save to tape for each library and then clear the SAVF after it writes to tape, so the saving process is faster and my Users can get on quicker. This is for selected *USER libraries on our system. We do a full system save Monthly for all libraries on the system. Our Monday backup takes about 2 hours, and the daily is about 65 minutes. I am in the process of trying to see if it will be faster to FTP the SAVFs to our network, than it is to use the 400's tape drive. HTH, Nick Nick Radich Sr. Programmer/Analyst EPC Molding, Inc. Direct (320) 679-6683 Toll free (800) 388-2155 ext. 6683 Fax (320) 679-4516 nick_radich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx "Burns, Bryan" <Bryan_Burns@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 10/16/06 10:58 AM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To <MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject Nightly saves I need to revisit our backup approach and I'd like to conduct a poll. Do you do any of the following for your nightly backup? 1. End QINTER SBS? 2. End just active jobs in QINTER? 3. Save to disk? 4. Perform a GO SAVE 21? 5. Perform another GO SAVE option? 6. Perform your own SAVLIB CL? We do 2 and 6. (Actually, we count on our ERP system [MAPICS] to do 2, but it doesn't always do what we need it to). Thanks, Bryan Burns M.I.S. Department ECHO, Incorporated
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