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If you're at V5R3 or higher and are journaling your physicals, consider
save-while-active to either radically shrink or eliminate your downtime
window altogether.  When we converted to it we stopped doing change
object saves and do the equivalent of a *NONSYS every night.  So we save
more with less user downtime.


John A. Jones, CISSP
Americas Information Security Officer
Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc.
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Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:22 AM
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Subject: Re: Nightly saves

Bryan,

We are on MAPICS XAR6 with V4R5 of the OS, and we do your options 1,2,3
and 6.  We use ROBOT to schedule our backups.

We have a custom CL for our backups.

Ends subsystem QINTER and RFINTER, for our scanners, and starts
subsystem Backup.  Do a SAVLIB (Monday nights) and SAVCHGOBJ (other days
of the
week) to SAVFs.  After each save to SAVF, I submit a job to do the
actual save to tape for each library and then clear the SAVF after it
writes to tape, so the saving process is faster and my Users can get on
quicker. 
This is for selected  *USER libraries on our system.  We do a full
system save Monthly for all libraries on the system.

Our Monday backup takes about 2 hours, and the daily is about 65
minutes. 
I am in the process of trying to see if it will be faster to FTP the
SAVFs to our network, than it is to use the 400's tape drive.


HTH,

Nick


Nick Radich
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
EPC Molding, Inc.
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I need to revisit our backup approach and I'd like to conduct a poll.
Do 
you do any of the following for your nightly backup?

1. End QINTER SBS?
2. End just active jobs in QINTER?
3. Save to disk?
4. Perform a GO SAVE 21?
5. Perform another GO SAVE option?
6. Perform your own SAVLIB CL?

We do 2 and 6.  (Actually, we count on our ERP system [MAPICS] to do 2, 
but it doesn't always do what we need it to).

Thanks,


Bryan Burns
M.I.S. Department
ECHO, Incorporated


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