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Sorry, that was supposed to be a private message daparnin@niscoseals. com To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: cc: midrange-l-bounces@m Subject: RE: First time buying System i5 idrange.com 10/05/2006 02:03 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Didn't you work for Lyall Electric 20 years ago??? ;) Haven't the faces changed a lot in 20 years? Didn't they used to produce wire and reclaim copper back then? Didn't they run off of a computer that heated the whole building? Wasn't it OK to bring a 6-pack in when doing downtime? Who says it's the same company?! Seriously, congratulations for achieving that milestone. Are you planning on being around for another 20? (You are a grandfather, after all. Time to start thinking about retirement.) Remember, time flies when you're having fun. Dave rob@xxxxxxxxx Sent by: To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> midrange-l-bounces@m cc: idrange.com Subject: RE: First time buying System i5 10/05/2006 10:16 AM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Perhaps the payoff does make the difference. Too many people out there want their BP to do all sorts of work and the last think they purchased was the memory upgrade for their B10. We spend some serious money also. And our BP was our IBM SE years ago. In fact his first commission check was a group of 5364's we bought before I started (and I celebrated my 20th anniversary with this company this summer). Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com "Jones, John \(US\)" <John.Jones@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 10/05/2006 09:01 AM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: First time buying System i5 I had lunch with my IBM rep the other day. Her title is iSeries Sales Specialist. She works with me and our BP and from my perspective she's been very helpful. Example: When I mentioned not getting the training vouchers from our last upgrade she made sure we got them and extended their expiration so I could get the class I wanted where I wanted it. Our BP is fine. I'd like a bigger discount, of course, but they do things for us that go somewhat above & beyond the minimum. They've flown me to Rochester twice for briefings, for instance, and they handle the passport renewals for us. Basically we use them for everything that goes to IBM that involves money changing hands. We tend to spend six figure amounts nearly every year, though, so I do expect a certain amount of attention. John A. Jones, CISSP Americas Information Security Officer Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc. V: +1-630-455-2787 F: +1-312-601-1782 john.jones@xxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Wenzloff Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 7:24 AM To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: First time buying System i5 There is a theme in this thread that it is HARD to buy an i5. When I bought our AS400 model 720 years ago it has a very bad experience and I dread the time (in about a year) when we will be ordering a new model (probably called something other than i5 again). IBM's position is to use a business partner. The BP has to work with one of those big 3 or 4 clearing houses. Rarely does anyone have a complete picture of what to order. Anyone remember when the IBM rep would visit you and help your company stay current. There hasn't been an IBM SA guy visit us in many many years. Do they still exist anywhere? BPs come in all flavors, unfortunately some don't seem to be very good at knowing what to order. IBM has to do more to make it easier to buy their products. Don't get me started on IBM leasing. They were so BAD that we went and got a loan from a bank and then paid cash for the machine. 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