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Didn't you work for Lyall Electric 20 years ago???  ;)  Haven't the faces
changed a lot in 20 years?  Didn't they used to produce wire and reclaim
copper back then?  Didn't they run off of a computer that heated the whole
building?  Wasn't it OK to bring a 6-pack in when doing downtime?  Who says
it's the same company?!

Seriously, congratulations for achieving that milestone.  Are you planning
on being around for another 20?  (You are a grandfather, after all.  Time
to start thinking about retirement.)  Remember, time flies when you're
having fun.


Dave





                                                                                
                                                          
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Perhaps the payoff does make the difference.  Too many people out there
want their BP to do all sorts of work and the last think they purchased
was the memory upgrade for their B10.  We spend some serious money also.
And our BP was our IBM SE years ago.  In fact his first commission check
was a group of 5364's we bought before I started (and I celebrated my 20th
anniversary with this company this summer).

Rob Berendt
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Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





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I had lunch with my IBM rep the other day.  Her title is iSeries Sales
Specialist.  She works with me and our BP and from my perspective she's
been very helpful.  Example: When I mentioned not getting the training
vouchers from our last upgrade she made sure we got them and extended
their expiration so I could get the class I wanted where I wanted it.

Our BP is fine.  I'd like a bigger discount, of course, but they do
things for us that go somewhat above & beyond the minimum.  They've
flown me to Rochester twice for briefings, for instance, and they handle
the passport renewals for us.  Basically we use them for everything that
goes to IBM that involves money changing hands.

We tend to spend six figure amounts nearly every year, though, so I do
expect a certain amount of attention.

John A. Jones, CISSP
Americas Information Security Officer
Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc.
V: +1-630-455-2787 F: +1-312-601-1782
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There is a theme in this thread that it is HARD to buy an i5.

When I bought our AS400 model 720 years ago it has a very bad experience
and I dread the time (in about a year) when we will be ordering a new
model (probably called something other than i5 again).

IBM's position is to use a business partner.  The BP has to work with
one of those big 3 or 4 clearing houses.  Rarely does anyone have a
complete picture of what to order.

Anyone remember when the IBM rep would visit you and help your company
stay current.  There hasn't been an IBM SA guy visit us in many many
years.  Do they still exist anywhere?

BPs come in all flavors, unfortunately some don't seem to be very good
at knowing what to order.   IBM has to do more to make it easier to buy
their products.

Don't get me started on IBM leasing.  They were so BAD that we went and
got a loan from a bank and then paid cash for the machine.

Just my opinion,
Greg



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