RE: First time buying System i5 -- MIDRANGE-L

For starters consider this list - you probably won't need all of it - and 
things like WAS full versions might not be needed. InfoPrint Server has at 
least one optional part that gives you PDF and PS conversions, so if you are 
involved with printing stuff, it'd be worth getting. And look also at that 
openness product 57??-SC1 I think - might as well order it - see if they have 
it in the configurator. I've included a couple optional parts in the list. 
Anyway, check the catalog - you get it free now - not too much cost but 
inconvenient later.

5648-B45  AFP Font Collection V2.1.1
5722-AC3  Cryptographic Access Provider 12
          iSeries
5722-AF1  IBM Advanced Function Printing U
          for iSeries
5722-BR1  IBM Backup and Recovery Media Se
          iSeries
    0516  BOTC Network
    0519  P10 Basic OTC Advance
    0551  P10 Basic OTC BRMS
5722-CE3  iSeries Client Encryption 128-bi
5722-DE1  IBM DB2 Universal Database Exten
5722-DP4  IBM DataPropagator Relational V8
5722-IP1  IBM Infoprint Server for iSeries
5722-JS1  IBM Advanced Job Scheduler for i
5722-PT1  IBM Performance Tools for iSerie
    5829  CD-ROM Performance Tools V5R3
    5921  CD-ROM Manager Feature V5R3
5722-QU1  IBM Query for iSeries
5722-SS1  IBM Operating System/400
    5920  CD-ROM HA Journal Performance V5
    5921  CD-ROM Media and Storage Extensi
    5926  CD-ROM PSF/400 1-45 IPM V5R3
    5929  CD-ROM HA Switchable Resources V
5722-ST1  IBM DB2 Query Manager and SQL De
          Kit for iSeries
5722-WDS  IBM WebSphere Development Studio
5722-WE1  IBM Web Enablement for iSeries
5722-XW1  iSeries Access
5733-ID1  IBM Infoprint Designer for iSeri
5733-XT1  XML Toolkit for iSeries
5769-FNT  IBM Advanced Function Printing Fonts
5798-FAX  IBM Facsimile Support for iSerie
5799-PTL  iSeries Tools for Developers

I bet you care not a whit about XT1 but who knows, right?   ;-)

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From: "albartell" <albartell@xxxxxxxxx>

get everything you would not think of, since as a partner it comes at no

cost on initial order. 

I am not sure what to even look for or what to add to my list. For 
instance, is the JVM considered software being that it is an installable 
feature similar to the compilers? Also, is Qshell in the same vein? Do I 
need to request those specifically? 

Does anyone have a "must have" list for software on the iSeries? I know 
there is a boat load of Websphere products out there (too many to count) and 
those are probably the software packages you are talking about, correct 
Vern? 

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/websphere/ 

Aaron Bartell 

-----Original Message----- 
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vernon Hamberg 
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:02 AM 
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion 
Subject: RE: First time buying System i5 

Aaron 

'Twas good to meet you at COMMON - you might try talking to John Ross at 
netshare. As to UPS, we just got the IBM basic one - I forget who is the 
actual manufacturer - 5 year full replacement guarantee and all that. I 
think you can order it on the lease. I assume you are getting a 520. And it 
appears without LPAR. 

And load up on the software - get everything you would not think of, since 
as a partner it comes at no cost on initial order. Include all the options - 
Techline won't necessarily remember to check this for you. Not their fault, 
just not what they do. 

HTH 
Vern 

At 04:36 AM 10/4/2006, you wrote:

Now I am getting closer to a purchase/lease and have some questions 
about what I will need once the box gets to the office. Note that this 
is the first System i5 we have hosted in our office so that is why the 
elementary questions. 

1. Do I use 110 or 220 power? From what I understood in a side 
conversation I heard the System i5 can do either. Benefits to either? 

2. Should I get a power conditioning unit? 

3. I know I need a UPS. Any recommendations or will something like the 
following work perfect: http://tinyurl.com/qkoy8 

4. Any other setup or physical environment things I need to be made 
aware of? 


BTW, here is where I am at with my configuration - comments? Note that 
I have two HD's and they are mirrored and NOT RAIDed. The tech I am 
working with at IBM, whose judgment I trust, told me that mirrored 
drives will give me very similar data protection (i.e. drive goes down, 
just replace it ASAP, same as RAID), but also mentioned that mirrored 
drives potentially are faster with I/O compared to their RAID counterparts. 

Summary: 
9406 520 0975 7350 600/30 CPW Value Edition with 2G memory 
2x 35.16GB drives; embedded ethernet; DVD; VXA internal cartridge 
tape 
V5.4 with one year Software Maintenance; 

Full config: 

http://mowyourlawn.com/temp/Krengel_Technology_Value2_3_.pdf 

Note that ISV's get software "at no addtl charge" so in the end my 
lease price is on the $12,904 number which should put me at $129.04 per 
month (not too shabby!). 

Aaron "I'm buying an i" Bartell 
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mowyourlawn.com 



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From: albartell [mailto:albartell@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:06 AM 
To: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: First time buying System i5 


Hi Everyone, 

For a variety of details I wont dive into, I am now tasked with 
purchasing/leasing my first System i5. I am actually quite excited 
because it is the same feeling I get when I buy a new PC, except this 
time I have next to zero knowledge on what I need to tell the friendly 
guy on the other end of the phone. I am coming at this from an 
Partnerworld ISV standpoint where they give what seems to be pretty 
darned good deals for leasing or buying (i.e. 1% of list price per 
month or 50% off list price). Note that this is strictly going to be 
used for development and does not need to be HA. 

Here's what I need to be able to do on the machine: 
1. Develop RPGILE/CLLE/CLE/SQL code (need to be able to compile at 
V5R1) 2. QShell environment. 
3. Ability to run Java natively AND in a servlet container (Tomcat is 
my app server of choice) 4. Ability to have more than one LPAR (rep 
tells me I need an HMC to accomplish this. The HMC is some sort of 
Linux appliance that gives you control over your different LPARS) 5. 
Backup code and files (talking less than 1 or 2GB). Do I need addtl 
hardware for this or can I back to a network device? 
6. Less than 5 profiles on 5250 at any give time. 
7. DB2 and Query and SQL capabilities 
8. WDSC and PDM (I already have WDSC 6.0) 9. Apache and SSL 
capabilities 

My retail price range is $10k to $15k which from what I can tell will 
get me a solid entry level machine. 

Based on the "Quick Pricer PDF" emailed to me, here is what I THINK I 
need, but I am lost as to if I have everything covered. 

Model/Server Feature SW Tier: 520-0975 P05 
CPW: 600/30 cpw 
Edition Name: Value 
Processor Speed: 1.9 Ghz Power 5+ includes L3 cache on 1200/60 cpw 
version Processor Feature: 8325 Edition Featue and Price: 7350 $8,200 
ESA 24x7: $110 

Some things I don't understand or need clarification on: 
1. What are "feature codes"? (i.e. 8325, 7350, etc). For instance, it 
appears as though feature 7350 is a package deal of some sort. 
2. From what I understand ESA gives me 24x7 access to support vs. just 
within business hours (seems like a good deal for only $110 more). 
3. What is "5250 CPW 30"? Is that how much processing power is given 
to green screens? 
4. When they say "Disk Drive" on this page: http://tinyurl.com/pbpxa, 
what are they referring to? A harddrive? A backup drive of some sort? 
5. Do I need a "Twinax Adapater"? Is that if I want to connect an old 
school console directly to the machine? 
6. What's the difference between the "Comm Adapter" and "Ethernet Lan" 
on this page: http://tinyurl.com/pbpxa 7. Is 600/30 cpw enough 
horsepower to run a machine with less than 5 developers on it at a 
given time? 
8. Is 1GB of memory enough to do general RPG development with some 
small Tomcat/Java and native Java mixed in there? 

Thanks to anyone that can help this lowly programmer buy his first 
iSeries 
:-) 

Aaron Bartell 
http://mowyourlawn.com 









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