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PS,

Dan, we're going to Miss Maria sooner than later. Since the board didn't know about the candidates running for office, they probably didn't realize that Maria has resigned from COMMON and will be taking a position with a conference management firm in Denver. Just thought you might want to know... My guess is that since Bev generally doesn't know now many attendees are at any conference or what COMMON is going a year in advance, she probably doesn't know about this either....you might want to tell her.

Don in DC



At 12:26 PM 6/8/2006 -0400, you wrote:

Dan,

there will indeed always be competition.  And, nobody is challenging, as
Pete pointed out, this chap's technical or business acumen.   And, these
really aren't the points of this discourse and I think you know it.

Let's get back to the issue at hand:

The facts remain that off shore companies are continuing to make major
inroads in the N.American marketplace, taking jobs/work away from folks
here an sending it offshore.  People here are losing their livelihoods to
off shore.  Do we really want to INVITE this to continue?  Do we really
want to raise on a pedistal and place in management, people who are totally
intent on ruining our financial way of life?  There's a lot of people that
really don't think so.

For the CBOD to sanction a board candidate who's business purpose in life
is to take away our livelihoods and those of our fellow iSeries'ers and to
take it not only from us, but totally out of country and continent (I won't
go into the GDP - econometric issues), frankly just says to a lot of us
that the CBOD is out of touch with the membership base and what's going on
in the IT economics.

And let's make this point very clear.  COMMON America is NOT a global
organization.  It attracts members and attendees from the global realm, but
it's target market and membership base is clearly N.American based.

So, Dan, since COMMON, Bev, Wayne, et al, are so interested in saving
money...let's out source the whole board to Bombay and let some group in
the Punjab run the rest of the show...   It obviously isn't an issue with
the board, so, hell, lead the way...start with your jobs.  I submit that
doing so will make the conference cheaper, ergo more attendees, will make
membership fees cheaper and we may actually get something for our
memberships besides the right to pay to go to a conference and be assess
nuisance fines for not staying at costly conference housing.

And, don't allow this discourse to get sidetracked by misplaced thoughts
and discourse about xenophobia.  This has nothing to do with national
identities, it's a purely business issue.  This isn't a personality issue,
it's a business one.  It's important that our businesses here stay as
viable concerns.

So, Dan, et al, it's been nice having you folks as board members, and we're
really sad to see you go, but it's cheaper to run things from Bombay...and
we're all gonna miss Cherese, Jane and Maria....but Dan, you're all for
competition and it's cheaper to run things in India...  Just please make
sure whomever calls me from membership services can actually speak and
understand English...

Frankly, I happen to LIKE COMMON and think it serves a very useful
purpose.  I don't think this is going to benefit our industry in the least.

Don in DC

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At 08:54 AM 6/8/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>Don,
>
>There will always be competition. It isn't really competetion between
>American programmers and Indian programmers; it's competition between one
>programmer and another programmer. You have the advantage of being close to
>your customers. Another may have the advantage of being cheap.
>
>What other attibutes do you have to make your customers prefer you? What are
>you doing to stay ahead of the technology curve?
>
>Dan


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