Re: Prometheus

On 5/31/06, Larry Bolhuis <lbolhuis@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I will cut to the conclusion and say the answer is to have i5/os as a
> supported OS on the p5 and do away with i5 hardware models, i5 only
> business partners, a lot of i5 marketing. <snip>
To steal a line from Red October "You arrogant ass, you've killed US!"

or South Park ...  those bastards, they killed i5 hardware!!!

That is, kill all your i5 partners and you've killed the System i. Many
of us (yes I am one of them) don't do p for a reason: we believe in i.

... and i5/OS does not run on p5.

Better instead to put more arrows in our quiver. With the hardware
essentially identical already why not let us sell more models?

> There are not many published numbers to know for sure, but I dont
> agree the p5 is a low profit item for IBM.  The $4000 for the lowest
> price p5 is still $4000. AIX, Linux and software subscription are in
> the $1000 range. DB2 brings in a good profit at $724 for the first
> user, $124 for additional users or $4874 per processor. Double those
> charges for DB2 on the enterprise ( bigger than 2 cores ) models.
>
Software monies go other places within IBM. $4000 for a small p cannot
possibly make them significant margins and likely is a loss.

Cant make a profit on a $10K mix of hardware and software? i5 IBM is
looking more and more like General Motors. A lot of high cost legacy
interests looking to make it to retirement before the whole thing
implodes.

-Steve