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IBM was showing at Minneapolis Common Expo a "possible" alternative, a HMC like hardware device (no pc needed) ethernet attached but only of hmc functions. A dedicated console not requiring windoze. Reminded me of a thin client. I liked it.Small shops do not want to dedicate a pc, and even if they do, as soon as you
leave they move it somewhere else...., plus like every pc in the network - Win Updates, antivirus, and all other maintenance issues. Not sure how this device get's it's updates. jim franz----- Original Message ----- From: <rob@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: RE: HMC or LAN Console
Not bad compared to the several twinax terminals we had to have laying around to support all the terminals going belly up. And I'd hate to see the space used up in a machine room with 24 twinax terminals that could be replaced with 1 hmc. Unless one has a fondness for the NASA look. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com "Carey Jeff - jcarey" <Jeff.Carey@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces+rob=dekko.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx 05/16/2006 03:51 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: HMC or LAN Console Good point too. We have an 890 with 24 partitions using Ops Console. We have to always have a spare PC or two around, as the PC's tend to die after a while. Jeff Carey Acxiom Corp. Phone: 630-944-0216 Fax: 630-944-8941 Pager: jeff_carey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Vote for me for COMMON Board of Directors: http://www.common.org/about/carey.html -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ryan Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 10:55 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: HMC or LAN Console Besides the fact that they almost never, ever break? On 5/15/06, Larry Bolhuis <lbolhuis@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:I completely agree. HMC is better in many ways even for a single i5 shop. Add in multiples and it's better yet. You will need to use a WinDOHs based PC if you want to use graphical disk management but that's small potatoes and no reason to select LAN console in this environment. Some clod suggested Twinax. I gotta find that guy and smack him. :-) IMHO there is no justifiable reason to ever use a twinax consoleagain.Ever. - Larry Haase, Justin C. wrote: > HMC! > > Keyword: reliability. > > Reasons: remote firmware updating, all-in-one management, lessphysical> machines to manage, etc. I have never had a HMC console fail me. I > can't think of a reason to do LAN console vs HMC in this situation. > > -- > Justin C. Haase - iSeries System Engineer > IBM Certified Systems Expert - System i > Kingland Systems Corporation > > > > For a non-LPAR shop running 3 different 520s in 2 differentlocations (2> at one site and 1 at the other), would you choose an HMC or a LAN > Console setup? 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