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We like the lease strategy because it drives the justification process to keep on a 3 year upgrade cycle. Accounting has their own reasons for preferring to lease the big stuff, but from our IT perspective, this is a nice side effect. rob@xxxxxxxxx Sent by: midrange-l-bounce To s@xxxxxxxxxxxx Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 03/21/2006 11:34 cc AM Subject RE: Compiled Programs Under V5R4 - Please respond to Work in V5R3? Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midra nge.com> When you finally can spring for it, keep this in mind http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/hardware/is4ha/ Also, I'd consider leasing. Makes it a lot easier to upgrade every x years. And going to the management and saying "We want to get a newer machine, which will give us better performance and allow us to do project xyz because it has this new piece of hardware, and supports this newer software. Cost will be a lease increase of a few bucks a month which may be offset by reduced maintenance." is a lot easier to swallow than that initial purchase price. A lot of management loves leasing for other accounting reasons. For some silly reason they sold our computer building to a leasing company and signed a long term lease on it. Perhaps it's a tax issue, or your Return On Assets (ROA) looks better if you get a building off of your list of assets. Maybe they don't even have to worry about depreciation schedules? Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com "Brian Piotrowski" <bpiotrowski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 03/21/2006 11:16 AM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: Compiled Programs Under V5R4 - Work in V5R3? Rats. That's what I thought would probably happen. Well, maybe we can spring for a new DRP machine in the next fiscal year (April 2007!). Thanks for the responses, all. Brian. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Young [mailto:cooljeff913@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:36 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: Compiled Programs Under V5R4 - Work in V5R3? The only way to make the progam backward compatible is to compile with TGTRLS(V5R3). Unfortunatly, this will have the effect of not letting you use any features not supported by the V5R3 compiler .... including Free Format SQL. Michael_Schutte@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: I can't give you a definite answer to your question, but I would imagine that compiled objects would not be backwards compatible much like not being able to open a Word 97 document on Word 95 without losing the formatting. Michael Schutte Work 614-492-7419 email michael_schutte@xxxxxxxxxxxx "Brian Piotrowski" oeparts.com> "Midrange Systems Technical Sent by: Discussion" midrange-l-bounce s@xxxxxxxxxxxx cc Subject 03/21/2006 09:32 Compiled Programs Under V5R4 - Work AM in V5R3? Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion nge.com> Hi All, Within the next month we will be taking delivery of a brand new 520E to replace our aging 720 box. I just finished reading an article on IT Jungle that v5r4 will now allow SQL statements in free-form (about time!). Now the question - our old 720 will be demoted to a DRP box. I know that V5R3 will be the highest version of the O/S I can put on this box. My question is if we put V5R4 on the 520 and V5R3 on the 720, will compiled programs still work on V5R3? I'd like to move the code over to the free form SQL, but I will not do it at the cost of having the programs fail on the DRP machine if the time comes that we need to use it. I assume I will not be able to modify code on the 720 box if we move to v5r4, but is that the only limitation? Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks! Brian. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Brian Piotrowski Specialist - I.T. Simcoe Parts Service, Inc. 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