Re: Compiled Programs Under V5R4 - Work in V5R3? -- MIDRANGE-L

Brian,

When we purchased our 520's, we bought a second one as a DR / Backupbox. There is no cost from IBM for the software maintenance on it(forget if there was a charge for the original license). Hardwaremaintenance cost, though, still applies.

Whether or not this kind of situation would be applicable to your 720,or not, would be a question to ask your business partner or IBM. It is,also, worth factoring into the cost for a second 520.

We've also got a 720 that was replaced by the 520. I offered thecompany $1,000 for it, but they held out for a "better deal." It'ssitting in the next room gathering dust. My offer has gone down to$200, and shortly it'll go down to "I'll haul it away for you." Notworth much else.




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Brian Piotrowski wrote:

It was hard enough getting them to spring for the 520E. :)

If I told them that we need a DRP box to match our production
environment that "might" be used they would see it as a $xxx,xxx,xxx
paperweight and probably balk.

They still can't get over our original 720 DRP purchase to be used
exclusively as a machine in waiting, so I don't think they'd be too
thrilled about dumping it and getting another one.
As for licensing, here's our current situation:

1 - Production 720 (Full licensing)
1 - DRP 720 (DRP licensing only)

So we are going to:

1 - Production 720 (Full licensing)
1 - DRP 720 (Licensing demoted to DRP licensing)
1 - DRP 720 - to be gutted for parts for the DRP 720 and then sold off
(for pennies from what we've been told by our VAR).

Maintenance-wise, we are paying about $13k (CDN) per year between the
two 720s for S/W maintenance and about the same for H/W maintenance.

Brian.

-----Original Message-----
From: rob@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxx]Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:54 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Compiled Programs Under V5R4 - Work in V5R3?
Doesn't IBM still have some hot deals on DR boxes? Wouldn't they becheaper than maintenance on a 720?
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/hardware/is4ha/
If you keep the 720 you are stuck for all perpetuity on your 520 withTGTRLS(V5R3M0). That's one major hassle. Which also means that your520can never upgrade two releases higher than V5R3 until you replace the DR
box.
Summary: The 720 is not a valid DR box. Why? Because it cannot runV5R4. Why does this not make it a valid DR box? Because, with V5R4 you
can save spool files and data queue data.
SAVLIB ... SPLFDTA(*ALL) QDTA(*DTAQ).  These options are not allowed
withTGTRLS(V5R3M0). I suppose you could make a business decision to forgothis data as we have always done (or purchased third party software todoso) prior to V5R4.
Question: Did you do a trade? Meaning, if you are transferring thesoftware licenses from the 720 to the 520 you cannot continue to runthemon the 720. Or did you buy all new software licenses?
Rob Berendt