Re: Rural Outsourcing

jim

To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: Rural Outsourcing

Well, than could all of us here say we know each other...just in case :o)

That was my experience when I was job hunting. I got the impression from the interviews that as a female, I had no business trying to take a man's job from the hiring pesonnel's buddy. One interviewer (the superintendant of the school system), who should have known better, kept telling me that the IT job only started at 16 per hour, but the janitors start at 18. I had seen the list of the test scores: I beat all the men (I was the only woman trying for the job) all the written tests on computer parts id, multiple choice Windows and Mac op and networking systems. Of all the interviews, that one rankled my hide the most.

Then I found an ad for this little company in northwest Iowa (after 2 years of searching for a job) that interviewed and hired me the same day.

Only trouble is now I have to tell the Iowa side of the Minnesota/Iowa jokes...but I absolutely refuse to support the Kansas City Chiefs. Good, bad or ugly, I bleed purple and gold.

Jim Franz <franz400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: (for me) it's still who you know.... I see jobs get filled by someone

recommending someone else - not by job listings and web posting boards.
To put it bluntly, that's a cr** shoot way to hire. The job listings go up
when contacts don't find the right person. I would agree
the days of a 'warm body coder' are about gone. You need to really know

some particular app or certain niche skill, especially for telecomute. I've

been
telecomuting for over 7 years and contract/consulting for decades before
that,
and it has always been who & what you know.
Many companies will not lead with telecommute, but if your the right

person & skillset for the job, they may very well consider it (especially if

you ask for relocation expenses if not a telecommute).
jim franz

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Duzenbury"

To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion"
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: Rural Outsourcing

On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 17:28 -0600, Shannon ODonnell wrote:

But she does make a great point. Why in the world would any company want

to
send programming work to India when you can get quality, reasonably
priced
work done right here in the U.S. through the use of rural-outsourcers?

I don't know.  I've lived in central Iowa for about ten years now.  I
can work for my customers in California and other 'high rent' places for
a decent wage, but with an Iowa expense level.  However, I've noticed
that jobs are getting harder to come by, even so.

If it's so great, than why is it rare?  I ran a quick search on dice.com
for 'RPG or ILE or AS/400 or AS400 or i5 or iSERIES'.  1043 results.
Check the 'telecommute only' box and watch that drop to fifteen.

Regards,
Rich


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