RE: RE: MIMIX/TURNOVER

No I haven't on the first.

Yes I have on the second.  While doing due-diligence testing with a
vendor who I won't name on this list, except to say it was not Lakeview.
And I won't tell anyone in a private e-mail either, so don't try  :).  

Long and the short of it is that you need to do your own testing, and
having to advertise that "we've switched so and so from such and such
vendor" seems kind of tacky to me, especially when it comes to software
which is so critical - just as critical as the OS, in my opinion.
Competitive replace is good when it comes to satellite TV vs. cable, but
it seems to me that if you're switching HA vendors 3 times in 5 years,
you might have some underlying skillset problems, or at the very least
some crap in-house code.

.02 more, which makes .04 now.

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Justin C. Haase - iSeries System Engineer
IBM Certified Systems Expert - eServer i5
Kingland Systems Corporation

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You are right that no one is going to put the negative stories on their
sites.  But, have you found a story on Mimix's site on someone who
switched from iTera? 

Have you had a HA vendor say "Call IBM!  It's a remote journaling
problem!"?

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Will the stories of how iTera, Mimix, Datamirror, et al didn't meet a
customer's needs be on their own sites?  Doubtful.  Your mileage may
vary - ask your proposed vendor to speak with actual customers -
glossies certainly can "gloss over" some messes and will never state how
things didn't work.  The HA decision is a huge one - do ALL YOUR
HOMEWORK before choosing - you don't want to be like England trucking
and switch vendors three times - that has to really be a pain.

BTW - we run Mimix, both ha1 and haLite.  Stamp of approval to them,
that's for sure.  They will go the extra mile and not run the other way
and say "Call IBM!  It's a remote journaling problem!" 

My .02

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Kingland Systems Corporation

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iTera quotes a customer that was contemplating switching from their
existing HA vendor.  The customer bought a new machine early.  They gave
their existing HA vendor x days to configure it and do a switch over.
It didn't go well.  Then they gave iTera x days to scratch it, configure
it and do the same.  Went great.  iTera got the sale. 
http://www.iterainc.com/boyd.php

This customer is on their third HA vendor and seems quite happy with
iTera http://www.iterainc.com/crengland.php


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Gang,

It is also easy to find folks that can talk about the ease of
administration for any product.   But, I don't know about you but I'm
more concerned with what the product was intended to do; provide a rapid
and effective way of recovering and HA.    I'm not buying a recover/HA
product to make my administrator's life easier; I'm buying it to provide
recovery/HA.    Yes, I'd prefer it be easy to use, but an hour a day is
NOTHING if it means I can recover my operation in a very short time
frame and keep customers from burning my butt and all the bad will that
goes along with that. 

Therefore, who has experience with MIMIX or iTera in actually
recovering from a full failure or even testing a full failure situation?
  What happened; what were the "war stories and fairy tails"?  I'll even
accept the "good news and the bad news" from a full blown recovery to
another LPAR as long as it closely resembles the production environment.
 

Thanks in advance,

Dave Odom
Arizona