RE: Design Change Requests

[michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

I use FF (95%, 5% IE) at work and Safari (95%, 5% FF) at home. I also
have a laptop that's only used for IBM type work (WDSC, iSeries Access,
VPNs to iSeries) that has both IE and FF, but I rarely get on the Web
from that machine. At work I'm protected by really strong virus/spyware
protection, at home I have a Mac.

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: Design Change Requests
> From: "Jones, John (US)" <John.Jones@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, January 10, 2006 12:30 pm
> To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Considering we're discussing an IBM site for submitting DCRs, I would
> like to know the browser usage breakdown among IT professionals.  My
> guess is that within the IT circle you'll find IE with around 70%,
> Firefox around 24%, and the remaining 6% to be Konqueror (sp?), Safari,
> Opera, Netscape, etc.
> 
> I use FF 99% of the time.  I only use IE when the site doesn't support
> FF.  Luckily, that gets rarer every day.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Pluta
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:20 AM
> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
> Subject: RE: Design Change Requests
> 
> 
> > From: Ingvaldson, Scott
> > 
> > According to http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp :
> > 
> > As of January 2006 IE 6 has 61.3% of the market and Firefox has 24.8%.
> > In my mind that makes it less than "obscure."  It should be as easy to
> 
> > support two or three versions of the #2 browser as it is to support 
> > the
> > 31 flavors of IE and its associated patches.
> > 
> > But I digress.
> 
> The site you point to is pretty skewed.  Other sites show IE with close
> to a 90% market share, while others point to a slowing in the growth of
> the Gecko engine (Mozilla/Firefox/Firebird).  I'm hardly a Microsoft
> advocate, but still I realize that far more than 2/3 of people use IE.
> Even the site you list clearly states:
> ----------
> 
> Why so high Firefox figures?
> 
> W3Schools is a website for people with an interest for web technologies.
> These people are more interested in using alternative browsers than the
> average user. The average user tends to use Internet Explorer, since it
> comes preinstalled with Windows. Most do not seek out other browsers. 
> 
> These facts indicate that the browser figures below are not 100%
> realistic.
> Other web sites have statistics showing that Internet Explorer is used
> by at least 80% of the users.
> 
> Anyway, our data, collected over a two year period, clearly shows the
> long and medium-term trends.
> ----------
> 
> The trend is that use of the Gecko engine is indeed rising, no doubt
> helped by the rampant security flaws in IE.  At the same time, your
> statement that "it should be as easy to support two or three versions of
> the #2 browser as it is to support the 31 flavors of IE" is a bit off
> the mark.  It seems you haven't run into some of the more frustrating
> inconsistencies between Gecko and IE, most of which don't raise their
> ugly faces until you start doing advanced DOM programming.  For example,
> events are bubbled completely differently in Gecko and IE.  Another
> particularly nasty bit is that the keycode in the keystroke event is
> read-only.  That really makes certain things difficult.
> 
> In any case, the inconsistencies between Gecko and IE are much greater
> than the inconsistencies between IE versions, and it's purely a business
> decision as to which to support.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
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