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That is my thought also. I was surprised that these messages (in my case) were associated with the DB and Hiper PTFs though. This would indicate that everyone would need to install SI17595, MF36564, & MF36693 before attempting any other PTF install, not just the Cume. The question would be, do we NEED all of them installed before applying any further PTFs? ----------------------------------------------------------------- APAR for SI17595: The PTF apply process during IPL fails with CPF3662 when a required PTF is not in the correct state. For example, a 5722SS1 PTF was not applied because a 5722999 requisite PTF was not permanently applied. APAR for MF36564: The symptom is that the system crashes while trying to signon to XPF. APAR for MF36693: There are various instances during the apply of licensed internal code PTFs where the linkloader allows modules to crossover into alternate spaces. ----------------------------------------------------------------- In our production environment this makes the C5298530 (or Hiper #66) install a two month process. It would be nice if the instructions made more obvious which PTF or PTFs require these prereqs, so that we could install the rest immediately. Regards, Scott Ingvaldson iSeries System Administrator GuideOne Insurance Group -----Original Message----- date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 00:42:48 -0500 (EST) from: "Pete Massiello" <pmassiello@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: Re: CUME 5298 - Update Scott, If you had IPLed after installing SI17595, MF36564, & MF36693 before loading the new Cume, I think you would have found the process would have loaded and applied like a normal cume. Pete ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: CUME 5298 - Update From: "Ingvaldson, Scott" <SIngvaldson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, December 8, 2005 12:38 pm To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > I ordered C5298530 on 12/01 and it arrived yesterday. I had already > downloaded SI17595, MF36564 and MF36693. SI17595 was temp applied and > the MF's were set to apply on IPL. Since this is the test system I > decided to try to install the Hipers (66) and DB (7) groups at this time > as well. > > Near the end of the Hiper and DB PTF load I received this message: > > ================================================================= > Confirm IPL for Special Handling PTFs > > There is at least one special handling PTF that requires an IPL to be > applied. A special handling PTF exists for a PTF group indicating the > PTF must be applied before the remaining PTFs in the PTF group are > applied. After the IPL, enter GO PTF and select option 8 again to apply > > the remaining PTFs. > > Press F10 to confirm your choice to end all jobs on the system > immediately and automatically IPL the system. > Press F12 to cancel the installation. > ================================================================= > I pressed F12 and did a normal IPL. After the IPL MF36564 and MF36693 > were temp applied, but none of the other PTFs were applied. > > WRKPTFGRP shows: > PTF Group Level Status > SF99530 5298 Not installed (was 5207) > SF99529 66 Not installed (was level 60) > SF99503 7 Installed (was level 6) > > When I did GO PTF option 8 now I got this message: > > ================================================================= > Continue PTF Install > > > The previous PTF install was incomplete. All PTFs were loaded from the > specified device, but the PTFs were not applied. There was at least one > special handling PTF that required a normal mode IPL to be applied. A > special handling PTF exists for a PTF group indicating the PTF must be > applied before the remaining PTFs in the PTF group are applied. > > > Do one of the following to continue the install: > o Press Enter to continue the previous PTF install without loading > additional PTFs from an install device. > o Press F6 to load additional PTFs from the install device, and then > apply all loaded PTFs. > > > Press F12 to cancel the installation. > ================================================================Enter set > all of these PTFs to apply, I then loaded C5298530 and IPLed. > > After IPLing all groups show applied. > > > Regards, > > Scott Ingvaldson > iSeries System Administrator > GuideOne Insurance Group DISCLAIMER: This message and accompanying documents are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. ?? 2510-2521, and contains information intended for the specified individual(s) only. This information is confidential. 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