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I'd be sorry to hear if that drawing was not on the up and up.  We have
been customers of theirs for 10+ years and are very satisfied.  They have
always been good to work with - tech support, product quality, training,
and negotiating deals.  Hope they don't tarnish their reputation to
much.......


Michael Crump
Manager, Computing Services
Saint-Gobain Containers
1509 S. Macedonia Ave.
Muncie, IN  47302
(765)741-7696
(765)741-7012 f
(800)428-8642

"The probability that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us
from the support of a cause we believe to be just"  Abraham Lincoln






                                                                           
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For those of us not at COMMON, could someone provide details of what
happened?

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    From: "Al Barsa"<barsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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    I think that this was a first class disaster for all:

    COMMON
    Attendees
    Speakers whose sessions it ruined
    Quadrant

    The room was too way small, and probably illegal.  The company
generally
    deceived us that there was a car to be won.

    IMHO, they did damage to their reputation.

    Al

    Al Barsa, Jr.
    Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

    400>390

    "i" comes before "p", "x" and "z"
    e gads

    Our system's had more names than Elizabeth Taylor!

    914-251-1234
    914-251-9406 fax

    http://www.barsaconsulting.com
    http://www.taatool.com
    http://www.as400connection.com



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    Does anyone else think that Quadrant was less than fully honest about
this
    give-away?

    I thought it seemed very deceptive in the way it was advertized as
    compared to the way it was really handled.

    I was going to be seriously considering their software, but now I'm
    wondering if I really want to do business with a company that does
    something like this.

    Thank you,
    Ronald L. Zimmerman
    I.T. Applications Manager
    Swiss Valley Farms, Co.      http://www.swissvalley.com
    "The Good for You Company"
    Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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