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I love that moment when you get the IT guy and the HR people together... it's precious, and very educational for all in the room. Jim Franz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bolhuis" <lbolhuis@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:22 AM Subject: Re: Efficiency AND Effectiveness. I just had to share this. > It's what happens when IT folk think it's Their system, not the users. > Some years back in an AS/400 shop I was contracted to make some > significant changes to payroll. The company had about 1000 folks out > back getting payed a complicated combination of hourly, piece bonus, > shift bonus etc and some of the rules conflicted. So I (as a consultant) > get my marching orders from the IT guy. I ask him point blank, should I > go meet with HR to see if this will meet their needs. He says "Nope, > what I have laid out is the Only way that could possibly make sense." > (Anybody see what's coming yet?). Upon completion I head up to HR to > show them how it works. They are shocked at how wrong it is. Virtually > every major decision was incorrect. Sequencing, rule selection, > reporting. I had to re-write over half of the thing, fortunately it was > all billable but very frustrating. > > We IT folks need to remember who's data it is anyway. Sure we need to > guide our users toward standards. We need to complain loudly when they > want edits removed because "They slow us down but we'll go back and fix > it later." (ya right) but if they insist and their data gets trashed in > the process remind them that it's their data. We need to keep it backed > up. We need to help them with ways to use it more effectively. We need > to give them ideas when they're stuck but we shouldn't be cramming > things down their throats just because we thing something is cool, or > 'the only way'. Sometimes we need to let them head down a bad path but > be ready to help them get back. Heck, who hasn't replaced a block of > code with a user's requested change but left the old block in the > program with a comment like: "This code was replaced for very stupid > reasons. So stupid in fact that it will be re-instated within a month, > trust me on this!" And sure enough the users finally see the light and > want the old code back. > > We in IT need to be facilitators and leaders, not tyrants or dictators. > We need to listen and listen to all departments not just the loudest > ones. It's not our data and the sooner we convince the users of this > the better off we all are. We need to be as they say on Mythbusters, > "...We're what you call Experts!" > > - Larry > > Fisher, Don wrote: > > >Such brilliance is not limited to the Oracle community, Steve. I've seen > >many examples of this type of genius during my career in AS/400 shops. This > >type of thinking was endemic to IT shops in the 1970s and 80s. > >Unfortunately, there are a few from that era that cling to that mentality. > > > >Donald R. Fisher, III > >Project Manager > >Roomstore Furniture Company > >(804) 784-7600 extension 2124 > >DFisher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ><clip> > >My wife has, for over 2 years, been project leading, for her dept. (she is > >in finance) a project to automate their current system, not a biggy. Now > >they had it in the USA for 12 months and not one working program, this was > >mainly because the MIS manager did not believe you needed to talk to the > >user to know what they wanted, I think he is cleaning toilets now. Anyways > >the US washed their hands of it and the UK took over, so they did a little > >talking to the user and they are now in UAT. > > > >So my wife is the ONLY one on the system working at home and asked me to > >time (what they call a report but it is a display) a report, Invoices not > >yet invoiced, 1 country, 2,000 records, 38 seconds. All countries 51,000 > >records 2Mins 47seconds. I think we would all agree not acceptable. Also > >there is no way that the user can ever see more than the first 5,000 records > >bit of a problem for the UK who had 5,500. > > > >Now we come to the clever part, when they first ran this last week it > >crashed because 6 users ran it at once, so they changed it so each request > >was queued. Now we move from the merely clever to the brilliant. But if it > >doesn't run within 60 seconds it is cancelled and a message is sent asking > >the user to try again later. They decided that this info was too good to > >only give to the requestor, everybody should get the message (merely a case > >of lazy programming I think). Well in a meeting about this my wife pointed > >out to the MIS manager that there could be 1,000+ users on when this goes > >live and with the response times she was getting that everyone would be > >getting messages all the time, and now from the brilliant to the sheer > >genius, his immediate reaction? He started calculating how much extra disk > >space they would need to buy to handle it! > > > >A shining example of analysis, design, and testing. Talk about skilled > >professionals! I mean, you would need to take special courses to be so bad, > >wouldn't you? Where do they get these people from? > ><clip> > > > > > > -- > Larry Bolhuis IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert: > Vice President iSeries Technical Solutions V5R3 > Arbor Solutions, Inc. iSeries LPAR Technical Solutions V5R3 > 1345 Monroe NW Suite 259 iSeries Linux Technical Solutions V5R3 > Grand Rapids, MI 49505 iSeries Windows Integration Technical > Solutions V5R3 > IBM eServer Certified Systems Specialist > (616) 451-2500 iSeries System Administrator for > OS/400 V5R3 > (616) 451-2571 - Fax AS/400 RPG IV Developer > (616) 260-4746 - Cell iSeries System Command Operations V5R2 > > If you can read this, thank a teacher....and since it's in English, > thank a soldier. > > > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > >
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