RE: Help me Justify iSeries

Sounds like a bad Mimix implementation... we were an early adopter (around
10 years ago), and have been very happy with it over the years.  It's a
good product, but ANYTHING can be implemented badly. ;)




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I used Mimix at one place. There was always a system programmer consultant
having to mess w/ it, alot of out-of-synching all the time. Put on Itera
and you're done. Actually we are doing a Rollover next weekend so I will
know more then. But you should really check them out.

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I'll forward this on.

Have you used Mimix before?

How often do you cut over to your DR box?

Rob Berendt
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Rob, Trust me, Itera is a thousand times better than those. I am the admin

for it. Never have any issues. Biggest hassle is the frequent PTF's.
Phil

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We're looking hard at that solution also.

Boss was dead set on Mimix HA lite.  Lot cheaper than Mimix full blown.
Then I strongly suggested that he look at iTera based on customer
testimonials.  After all, have you found one customer that left iTera for
Mimix?  No.  But you can find lots going the other way.  Boss opened his
mind to that possibility.  Then our BP did the full court press and
brought in a friggin army.  Now he's back to leaning strongly towards
Mimix HA lite again.

Rob Berendt
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We recently installed Itera's Echo2 HA solution. It is very affordable and


easy to use.

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Get the DR people to help you with your homework.  There's a reason
they're called Business Partners.  Often IBM has fire sales where you can
buy an i5 at a deeply discounted price providing that you sign the "This
machine is for DR purposes only" form.  Talk to your software vendors.
They should have a discount on the copy of the software on the DR box.
Some don't even charge for it.
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/hardware/is4ha/

When we get a DR solution this year we plan on running on it every 8 weeks



when we do our scheduled downtime on the other boxes.  After all, we
hotswitch to our domino backup sites on a daily basis.

I think a lot of this decision would be so much easier if IBM would just
buy or develop their own integrated DR solution.  People would feel even
more comfortable with IBM directly behind such an integral product.

Rob Berendt
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My boss has the impression that running on the iSeries/AS400 is more
costly than a Wintel platform with something like Oracle or SQL Server.

I'm a staunch supporter of the iSeries, however, my boss who came from a
Microsoft environment seems to think its so much more expensive to stay on




the iSeries due to hardware and software costs. How can I convince him
that this where our business needs to be? Or, has the time come to give up




the fight?

BTW: the scale-tipping factor was the high cost of a backup machine for
D-R purposes. We're looking at about $20K to buy a new low-end 520 with
V5R3 and enough DASD to put in another location as a hot-site. The
production machine is an Enterprise Class 520 that we purchased in Sept of




last year. The total cost including all of our software licenses was
around $200K.  I hate to say it, but I think he may be right. I agree that




iSeries is a stable and secure platfor that is highly capable of running
our business, but unfortunately, they're only looking at the bottom line.


Thanks,

Ron Adams
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