RE: Help me Justify iSeries

[Don <dr2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

EXACTLY! :)

On Fri, 27 May 2005, Walden H. Leverich wrote:

> >ALSO, I could spinoff my SAVF's to that server for
> >some production libs and reduce my downtime...etc....
>
> We do our nightly saves (iSeries) to SAVF then FTP those save files to a
> PC Server. That PC Server is then backed up as part of our nightly
> backup sweep to tape. Works like a champ (yes, that means I've recovered
> from them). Obviously you still have iSeries tape for the IPL in a
> disaster recovery case.
>
> -Walden
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don
> Sent: Friday, 27 May, 2005 12:10
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: RE: Help me Justify iSeries
>
>
>
> Well, Joe, frankly, I can put a decent intel server, with RAID5 SATA on
> my
> net to serve as a repository at 1gig xfer rate...with just over a
> terabyte
> of useable space....and do so for probably less than $3k...  ALSO, I
> could
> spinoff my SAVF's to that server for some production libs and reduce my
> downtime...etc....I'm thinking of upgrading one of my servers to do just
> this!
>
> So, IMPUHO (in my Politically UNCORRECT humble opinion), your solution
> isn't that far off...in terms of just a disk data repository sitting out
> in the ether...  I just wish like hell I could do the same
> config/pricing
> with a i5!!!
>
> Don in DC
>
> -----------------------------
>
> On Fri, 27 May 2005, Joe Pluta wrote:
>
> > Hey!
> >
> > Don't go taking my name in vain here, Jim.  I really hate when people
> > try to slot me when I offer alternatives.  If I say Java isn't good
> for
> > everything, I get labeled anti-Java.  If I say RPG isn't good for some
> > things, I get labeled anti-RPG.  I mention that Wintel might be
> cheaper
> > for some things, and (you could've predicted it) someone starts
> labeling
> > me as anti-iSeries.
> >
> > I think I was pretty clear about how this was a business decision.
> > Before you start throwing out buzzwords like "security" and "critical
> > update and maint time", exactly how much time do you think you need to
> > spend on securing and maintaining a file server, even if the files are
> > HTTP accessible?  It's nowhere near what's needed for a web
> application
> > server.
> >
> > "joe's cheap pc" is still WAY less expensive than the corresponding
> > iSeries disk.  If you need high availability, then great, you need
> > another PC.  And at that point (and only at that point) the
> > administration begins to become an issue, primarily because I don't
> know
> > of a good way to fail over from one PC to another, although I'm sure
> > there's a network appliance that would do it.
> >
> > In any case, "joe's cheap pc" is still cheap, and is still a viable
> > alternative to expensive iSeries disk when storing static binary data.
> > It may not be the right alternative for a given business, but it has
> to
> > be looked at, especially when you're trying to keep the overall price
> of
> > your iSeries solution to a minimum.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > > From: Jim Franz
> > >
> > > (just like joe's cheap pc that suddenly
> > > got more expensive when you add reliability requirements...and no
> > mention
> > > of security, HA, the critical update & maint time, & on & on).
> >
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