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Here's how it works with the Suite (or even just SPLTOOL
and AFPTOOL installed)

The SPL2STMF command is called to convert to PDF.
 (SPL2STMF is Spooled file to Stream File, and part of
SPLTOOL).  

It looks at the spooled file, if its SCS, it does it't
normal text-PDF conversion.  If it's AFPDS, it uses AFPTOOL
to do the conversion.

That way with customers using both types, it will do it the
"proper" way.  :)

I saw someone mention AFPTOOL seems to work on SCS spooled
files.  It will on most, but not on all.  For the price of
both (if needed) you're still saving a lot of $$ (and
receiving superior support in most cases) than with others.

Brad
www.bvstools.com


On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:36:31 -0500
 ron_adams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> This isn't entirely true. Where's Brad, he usually hangs
> out here?
> I think it only converts to TIFF when there are graphics
> or its and AFPDS. 
> Otherwise a regular SCS spool file is searchable.
> In fact, the suite has SPLTOOL which works with spool
> files and allows 
> emailing, MAILTOOL for sending emails, and AFPTOOL for
> converting AFPDS 
> files to PDF for emailing/sending/
> 
> I looked at several other (more expensive commercial)
> products and Brad's 
> was the best bang for the buck. It works very well, and
> he has always been 
> very quick to respond to any issues.
> 
> Ron Adams
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 04/14/2005 01:56 PM
> Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> 
>  
>         To:     midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        RE: PDF Limitations?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I'll take a look at it.
> 
> The job log from Brad's has the following:
> 10800 - SNDPGMMSG MSGID(CPF9898) MSGF(QCPFMSG)
> MSGDTA('Performing Tiff to
>  PDF conversion...') TOPGMQ(*EXT) MSGTYPE(*STATUS)
> 
> It also has a .tiff output option and doesn't find text
> when I search
> search so I'm inclined to say that it does it all as an
> image.  The good
> news is that it's billed as an AFPDS-only tool but it
> doesn't seem to have
> a problem with SCS spool files.
> 
> Dave Parnin
> Nishikawa Standard Company
> Topeka, IN  46571
> daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
>                       "Wilt, Charles"   
>                       <CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>        To:
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> Systems Technical Discussion 
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>                       idrange.com
>                 Subject:  RE: PDF 
> Limitations? 
>   
>   
>                       04/14/2005 01:16 PM   
>                       Please respond to   
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> 
> 
> 
> Another one is CVTSPLSTMF from Ariadne Software
> 
> http://www.ariadnesoftware.com/
> 
> I didn't think Brad's AFPTOOL converted to graphics.
> 
> Charles Wilt
> iSeries Systems Administrator / Developer
> Mitsubishi Electric Automotive America
> ph: 513-573-4343
> fax: 513-398-1121
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> Steve Richter
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 2:05 PM
> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > Subject: Re: PDF Limitations?
> >
> >
> > On 4/14/05, daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I guess I should have read the fine print.  I believe
> that
> > they both have
> > > an intermediate step that converts the spool file to
> a
> > .tiff image.  I
> > > wonder if that's due to overlays or other
> characteristics
> > of AFPDS spool
> > > files.  Maybe that's why the conversion programs that
> I've
> > seen so far tend
> > > to differentiate between SCS and AFPDS.  I'm trying
> the
> > CVTSPLSTMF from
> > > MMAIL right now and it's been chugging away for a few
> minutes.
> >
> > as I understand it, most but not all as400 pdf tools go
> the route of
> > having the as400 api convert the spooled file to a tiff
> image, then
> > the tiff image is stored in the pdf file.  There are
> two problems with
> > the tiff image approach.  First, it makes the resulting
> pdf file
> > larger than otherwise. ( important when emailing the
> document )
> > Second, I doubt the end user can search the document
> for text and it
> > probably does not scale very well when they view it.
> >
> > Gumbo software is the only as400 vendor I know of that
> creates the pdf
> > file directly from the text contents of the spooled
> file.
> >
> > -Steve
> >
> > >
> > > What about Infoprint Server?  Does anybody know if it
> has a
> > limit on AFPDS
> > > printer files?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Parnin
> > > Nishikawa Standard Company
> > > Topeka, IN  46571
> > > daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >                      michael@ryantechnolo
> > >                      gy.com                      To:
> > Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
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> > >                      midrange-l-bounces@m        cc:
> > (bcc: David A Parnin/Topeka/NISCO/SPCO)
> > >                      idrange.com
>                 Subject:
> > RE: PDF Limitations?
> > >
> > >                      04/14/2005 11:59 AM
> > >                      Please respond to
> > >                      Midrange Systems
> > >                      Technical Discussion
> > >                      <midrange-l@midrange
> > >                      .com>
> > >
> > >
> > > I dunno about AFPTOOl, but CVTSPLFPDF says it
> supports up
> > to 2 pages...
> > >
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: PDF Limitations?
> > > > From: daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Date: Thu, April 14, 2005 12:41 pm
> > > > To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > Since PDF's seem to be the topic of the day...
> > > >
> > > > Is there a size limit to PDF's?  I've been giving
> trial
> > runs to AFPTOOL
> > > by
> > > > Brad Stone and CVTSPLFPDF from MMAIL at
> http://www-922.ibm.com/.  They
> > both
> > > seem to do a good job but they both had problems when
> I tried to
> convert
> > a
> > > spool file that was 8660 pages.  Was that too much?
>  I've only done a
> > > minimal amount of testing so it could be my fault.
>  Granted, most
> reports
> > > that we would be interested in converting wouldn't be
> nearly that big
> but
> > I
> > > thought that I'd try this since our accounting
> department runs some
> large
> > > year-end reports that they want to keep until the end
> of time.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Parnin
> > > Nishikawa Standard Company
> > > Topeka, IN  46571
> > > daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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