Re: Is a used 170 worth it? -- MIDRANGE-L

At $1,800/year in hardware maintenance wouldn't it be cheaper to snarf up 
old 170's on ebay and have one in the back closet, fired up on a monthly 
basis to keep batteries charged, etc?

Rob Berendt
-- 
Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





Al Barsa <barsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
04/07/2005 11:38 AM
Please respond to
Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>


To
Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
cc

Subject
Re: Is a used 170 worth it?







Used 170's are trailer trash today.

I have a customer that got a proposed charge of $74,000 to move 5 users
from Lawson at V5R2 to V5R3, so we provided them used 170, which they not
have software maintenance on.  The hardware maintenance is $1800/year.
Break even time: 41.11 years!  For connectivity, DDM still works to a 
S/36.
I don't know of any 38's left.

The last release that will run on a 170 is V5R3.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

"i" comes before "p", "x" and "z"
e gads

Our system's had more names than Elizabeth Taylor!

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com
http://www.as400connection.com



 
             Pete Helgren 
             <Pete@xxxxxxxxxx> 
             Sent by:                                                   To 

             midrange-l-bounce         Midrange Mailing List 
             s@xxxxxxxxxxxx            <MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
                                                                        cc 

 
             04/07/2005 09:27                                      Subject 

             AM                        Is a used 170 worth it? 
 
 
             Please respond to 
             Midrange Systems 
                 Technical 
                Discussion 
             <midrange-l@midra 
                 nge.com> 
 
 




Sorry for the duplicate post.....I sent the original with the wrong
profile and it may be delayed for "administrative approval"....

I have a customer that is willing to give me a used Model 170 (V4R5M0)

that is "surplus" to them for the cost of shipping.  Initially I
thought, sure!  But I began to wonder about the cost and the lifespan of
the model.  I have been pretty actively moving to RPG IV and using Java
and other Open Source technologies on the iSeries.  I don't want to
invest in something that will quickly dead-end.

Things I was thinking about:  What OS version is supported on the 170?
What would be the cost to purchase the OS and get it on SW maintenance?
It has an integrated PC server.  What version of OS is supported in the
integrated PC ? (running WinNT right now....)

Anyway, I know it has useful life left (given the number of recent posts
about 170's....), but if I want it to be current OS-wise, I just wonder
what the cost would be.  Entry level i5's are *relatively* cheap and
they rock!

Any WAG's on what it would cost and what the downside would be?

Thanks,

Pete Helgren



--
This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing 
list
To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,
visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l
or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.



-- 
This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing 
list
To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,
visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l
or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.