Re: Is a used 170 worth it?

[Larry Bolhuis <lbolhuis@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Some answers.

First off the 170 is supported through V5R3 and thats that, running 
Frankie at V5R3 for over a year now.
The IXS card will run Win2000 - doing that on Frankie too.

You will want to get to V5R3 too but the cost could be a killer.  If 
the box is tiny (like about 120 cpw and down) it's a P05 so software 
isn't so bad. Up through about  300  cpw it a P10, bad.  Above that, 
whoo boy, that 520 is lookin' mighty fine!

 Sure lots of parts are available, disk memory, LAN/WAN/Twinax etc and 
for a personal development and testing machine it would be decent.

 So your cost mostly will be getting OS/400 V5R3 (with the mandatory 1 
year of maintenance ) P05 SWM is $1,200/year   P10 is $4K, P20 -you 
don't wanna know.  If I understand correctly this is  the only charge 
because V4R5 comes with the box and you need only to uptick it by paying 
the charge.  It's possible though that you'll get hit with the penalty 
for not being current which would be about 1.5 times the 1 year charge 
and would be in addition to the charge to get the license.

 Hopefully that helps some.

   - Larry



Pete Helgren wrote:

> Sorry for the duplicate post.....I sent the original with the wrong 
> profile and it may be delayed for "administrative approval"....
>
> I have a customer that is willing to give me a used Model 170 (V4R5M0)
>
> that is "surplus" to them for the cost of shipping.  Initially I  
> thought, sure!  But I began to wonder about the cost and the lifespan 
> of the model.  I have been pretty actively moving to RPG IV and using 
> Java and other Open Source technologies on the iSeries.  I don't want 
> to invest in something that will quickly dead-end.
>
> Things I was thinking about:  What OS version is supported on the 170? 
> What would be the cost to purchase the OS and get it on SW 
> maintenance?  It has an integrated PC server.  What version of OS is 
> supported in the integrated PC ? (running WinNT right now....)
>
> Anyway, I know it has useful life left (given the number of recent 
> posts about 170's....), but if I want it to be current OS-wise, I just 
> wonder what the cost would be.  Entry level i5's are *relatively* 
> cheap and they rock!
>
> Any WAG's on what it would cost and what the downside would be?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pete Helgren

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