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My good friend, do not expect IBM to do anything about it until hell freezes over and then they will probably have a meeting about it. They have been, are and will be in the future a bunch of haughty big elephants eating tall grass while the jungle is on fire all around them. They thought patterns are just bottom line oriented and although they have very brilliant spots of intelligence burning in their otherwise dusky camp they can't seem to come to point of taking of there jackets and really getting into the fight. You and I and thousands of other nobody contractors and professionals who really know how good the system is must be come the Don Quixote warriors. We did it before for the s/38 when IBM management gave the sales directive for the machine to the mainframe salesmen when they, without plan dissolved the GMD division. We need to break up the nest of vipers that can themselves Business Partners who are also in conjunction with IBM strictly out to sell equipment with out regards to its quality and go out and sell it ourselves. We are going to have to become our own marketing force. We have done it and we can do it. We can preach the iSeries values. We can show how powerful its RDB really is and that Oracle is just starting to catch up. We can volunteer to teach the courses at the colleges and Universities. We can speak at user group meetings. We can work hard to learn the new things like .NET so we can be able to show their real weaknesses in their language. Its our business and we have to fight to protect it not only from it true enemies but also from some of its supposed "friends." Jack Derham Direct Systems, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shields, Ken Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 8:43 AM To: Midrange Mailing List (E-mail) Subject: RE: IBM a personal comment Thanks folks. So far I've got back quite a few replies, and they all point to the fact that IBM's ISeries, does not have good exposure, requires a great deal of specialist setup, and $, and quite a few of you have had bad experience with the platform in different areas I've worked in the midrange world for many moons, and although the platform is solid, IMHO , it has to 'open' up much further. We're working and living in a world where an entire development world can be downloaded to your desktop for free.. (a good example is Java 2) etc...and in order to do any development in the ISeries world ,you have to spend a lot of money to acquire a machine, and then , acquire all the licensing for the software, anon anon.. There is general agreement, that exposure in Colleges and Universities is insufficiently supported by that division of IBM, and as a footnote, IBM is getting their socks knocked off in this very important arena. Question now is, will they do anything about it? Ken Shields PPG Canada Inc Ph: 905 725 1144 (326) Fx: 905 433 8712 -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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