RE: Why NOT the web? -- MIDRANGE-L

Browser based apps can make sense; but most are slower that a telnet or
native GUI application would be. Also, they consume more server
resources as well.

It is true that html is easily sniffable as a previous poster mentioned;
but the same is true of almost all unencrypted traffic. This would only
be a concern if you client uses SSL secured telnet.

Also, it can be difficult (not impossible) to do some common things
native applications do in html; if you use an applet or activeX you can
easily get around most of them; but then you go back to many of the
problems of a native application.
Some examples:
        A page that will need to scroll to show all the data in "grid"
style format; you need to keep the column headers               visible.
        You need to manipulate the data you are displaying without
rerunning the select
        You need to validate input against a large table without
refreshing the whole interface
        You need to run a job that will take longer than 1 minute
        Security design; rather than using a native user security model
as you would with a native application you usually roll
your own for the web; this can be pretty difficult
        2 words; SQL injection - can be a problem for native
applications; will be a problem for your web application
        You need to run a "restartable" job
        You need the ability to "cancel" once a page has started        
        
Another point is system management. 
        It can be (depending on how your application is written)
difficult to find any information about performance or errors. The HTTP
webserver logs are all but useless (Windows or i5) for diagnosing server
issues with your application. That means you have to handle your own
logging.  Once again it is do-able; but you have to think about it
before your application is developed.

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Earl
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 9:36 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Why NOT the web?

Art,

> I have a customer that wants to re-develop their entire "ERP" solution

> using .NET.

<snip>

> Actually, when I say web, I mean browser based.  They will use IE.
> 
> I've told them that the web is not for this kind of stuff, it's for 
> customer service, inquiries, simple ordering,etc.

I think there are two separate issues here -
1) should they move internal applications to a browser based interface,
and
2) is .Net the right way to do it.

I don't agree that a browser based interface is not right for internal
applications like the ones that you describe.  Browser interfaces are
usually instantly recognized and comfortable for new users of your
application.  They allow you to provide additional dimensions to your
application trough hyperlinks graphics, video and sound. And they offer
fantastic Help and FAQ opportunities.  And not to overstress the value
of hyperlinks, this is an awesome way to quickly link parts of an
application together in a flow that matches the users work habits 9much
better than Menu options).  IMHO, you ought to consider putting a
browser interface on all of your apps - and continue to run them on the
iSeries.

As for .Net - well I don't know much about it, but I have seen a variety
of instances where the iSeries (or even better, the i5) renders HTML and
Java applications beautifully.  And since the bulk of your corporate
data is already there, doesn't it just make sense to render it from the
iSeries rather than moving it, replicating it, or adding another
architecture tier?

I don't think that the argument is browser vs. 5250 telnet, it's really
i5 vs. .Net.  

eServer i offers many, many, benefits over Wintel architectures.  But if
you cast the battle as browser vs. 5250, I think you'll lose the
argument before you ever get the opportunity to discuss any of the
iSeries benefits.

JMHO.

jte

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