Re: Setting up a Model 170 for developers

I'd like to see the design/build documentation on this one!  With
offshore, you get what you specify.

Many offshore firms, for whatever reason, think of themselves as pure
"service" firms and therefore eschew developing on their own systems. 
I'll admit to not understanding that (il)logic, especially when it's a
fixed-price contract.  I suspect it's actually an unwillingness to
have system support personnel (i.e. they rely on the client's
resources); a moderately decent frame relay line between the U.S. to
India pays for a nice little i5 screamer and provides good isolation
between the offshore test environment and the onshore production
environment.

I have experience in this area.

-reeve


On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:59:18 -0500, Art Tostaine, Jr.
<atostaine@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Oh, what a great idea.  We'll develop offshore!  Oh, they don't have
> any hardware to do the development, but they know HOW to do it?
> Great!  They must have the manuals!  Oh, they need those too.  they'd
> like those first?  No problem!  Fedex goes there!  Let's get them an
> As/400!  Think of what we are saving!
> 
> I have a customer with the crappiest $250,000  code I 've ever seen.
> Not even a search screen to be found.  But at least it runs on the
> web!    And it was outsourced.  What a bargain.
> 
> Art
> 
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:23:45 -0600, DeLong, Eric
> <EDeLong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Ed,
> >
> > Since nobody else mentioned, it could be possible to use a timeshare system
> > to host a remote development team.  Not sure if that's and option, but
> > perhaps it might do for the short term.
> >
> > Eric DeLong
> > Sally Beauty Company
> > MIS-Project Manager (BSG)
> > 940-898-7863 or ext. 1863
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: EDoxtator [mailto:doc6502@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:50 AM
> > To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Setting up a Model 170 for developers
> >
> > All
> >
> > The project I'm on is doing some offshore development (my client's edict,
> > not
> > mine).
> >
> > The client is incredibly fussy and slow with regards to setting up VPN
> > access
> > to their AS/400's, and they're not going to get the configuration sorted out
> > before the end of January.  Since they want my team to start work before
> > then,
> > I'm exploring the possibility of purchasing a separate AS/400 Model 170 or
> > 270
> > and letting my offshore team use that.  Because I'm thick when it comes to
> > IBM
> > hardware (or hardware in general), I'm hoping that some of the Midrangers
> > could
> > offer a little advice with regard to configuration.
> >
> > The team will be developing a set of batch server programs that are executed
> > through a Java front end.  The programs are OPM RPG, generated by Synon.
> > The
> > server progams are called either through a trigger firing or through stored
> > procedures.
> >
> > (I can't change this setup.  If I could, I would.)
> >
> > I know I will need:
> > 5722SS1 - Operating System/400  (V5R1M0)
> > 5722WDS - WebSphere Development ToolSet
> > 5722ST1 - DB2 Query Mgr and SQL DevKit
> > 5722JC1 - Toolbox for Java
> > 5722JV1 - Developer Kit for Java
> > 5722JV1 - Java Developer Kit 1.2
> >
> > I know I will not need:
> > 5722XE1 - Client Access/400 Express for Windows (the client uses Mocha, and
> > printer support is non-existent)
> >
> > I'm sure I will need other LPP's, but I'm not sure what.  Would I need any
> > of
> > the following:
> > 5769AS1 - IBM WebSphere Application Server
> > 5722TC1 - TCP/IP Connectivity Utilities
> > 5722CM1 - Communications Utilities
> >
> > Rough estimates right now show that I'd need somewhere between 180-200gb
> > disk.
> > (I'm basing my estimates on the development machine the client currently
> > uses
> > onshore, which has many more users, and a lot of program definitions.)
> >
> > I don't know how much memory I would need.  More is, of course, better, but
> > what would I need for adequate, if pokey, performance?
> >
> > I know I will need a licence for Synon.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > -Ed
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