RE: I/O features not planned to be supported beyond V5R3 -- MIDRANGE-L

Your 810 may be 1 year old.  But the drives in it have been out longer. 
Your 810 isn't obsolete - it's the older drives.

Rob Berendt
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Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
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Fortunately the controllers are 2782's and 2757's.  I understand that all
things reach their EOS.  But replacing a tape drive or modem is one thing,
replacing all of your DASD is another thing entirely.  I'd be a lot more
understanding if this was a 170 or a 720, but it's a one-year-old 810.

As far as speculation goes, I fully expect OS/400(i5 O/S) and iSeries to
begin releasing hardware and software concurrently with AIX and pSeries. I
never expected this to make our one year old hardware useless.  How about
our three year software maintenance agreement?  That's useless too if we
can't upgrade to the next release.

Regards,

Scott Ingvaldson
iSeries System Administrator
GuideOne Insurance Group 

-----Original Message-----
date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:33:55 -0500
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subject: RE: I/O features not planned to be supported beyond V5R3

I'll grant you that it seems a little harsh.  Maybe it has to do with the 
controller that supports them?  Is your current controller on the "oh 
sh!t" list?

Let's get really speculative.  Who knows that it's going to be called 
V5R4?  Watch them call it V6R1 and jump to 128bit computing.  :-)  This is 

total freaking humor and not to be construed as any inside knowledge.

Rob Berendt
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Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
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6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
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Certainly that is true, however the point is that these drives are not 
that
old (Purchased in July, 2003.)  Our 620 still supported 2 GB drives at 
V5R2,
how could anyone guess that 17.5 GB drives would not be supported at V5R4?

Regards,

Scott Ingvaldson
iSeries System Administrator
GuideOne Insurance Group 

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date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:06:43 -0500
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subject: RE: I/O features not planned to be supported beyond V5R3

Were there higher capacity drives available for the 810?  Or was the 6718 
the highest offered?  Sometimes by reducing the number of disk arms you 
can improve performance.  We went from 42 drives to 7 and had a much 
better performing machine.  Granted it was also a drop from a P30 tier 
down to a P10 tier - an 820 down to a 520.
My point being, that staying with older drives for the believe that older 
drives with more disk arms beats newer drives with less disk arms, 
performance wise:
1- may not be true
2 - may get you in a bind like you are in now.
3 - may fill up your rack space, thus limiting your potential for growth 
in the future.

Rob Berendt
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PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
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This concerns me greatly.  We bought a new 810 last year (after two years 
of
lobbying for an upgrade) that came with 10 6718 disk units.  We migrated 
an
additional 10 6717 disk units from our old 720.  Now this planning 
statement
indicates that none of our disk units will be supported (on a current O/S)
beyond next year.

Something like this could cause my shop to get out of the iSeries
altogether.

Regards,

Scott Ingvaldson
iSeries System Administrator
GuideOne Insurance Group 


 
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