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- I don't see packed data as something terribly frustrating to end users. All the data extraction tools convert it for them. Heck, most users don't care if it's just a bunch of zeros and ones on disk. It's what they see on their desktops that count. - Not sure if the conversion from ebcdic to ascii is a big time waster. I'll grant you that something slows down NetServer quite a bit. Heck IXS cards using the same disk drives on the same highly souped up iSeries is faster than NetServer. - I think the industry can understand the difference between a server, and a client. And you access the server via the client. I am not so sure that the server must have it's own native gui. - Desktop OS/400? OS/2 was supposedly better than Windows. And IBM did market that with large ads that NT stood for "Nice Try". I am not sure that the market is there to move to yet another desktop os. People have their choice of wintel, Mac and Linux, plus a few others. But then again, many shops were only looking at Linux for servers but are now considering it on the desktops - so who knows? Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com "Shields, Ken" <kenshields@xxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 11/03/2004 08:34 AM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "Midrange Mailing LIst \(E-mail\)" <Midrange-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Fax to Subject Revenues down in 3RD quarter. Rebuttal: - Packed decimal representation of data was an IBM fondling, designed early in computing history to save disk space...ps, have a terra byte... - Character set code pages will always be required in multi-lingual settings, I just don't see a Country or Language called IBM...CCSID is the mechanism - We're not switching to Ascii when ftpying files, we're converting data to Ascii (time loss) - If you've gotten fond of the nice Gui of other clients, I suspect one day there will be no OS400 How about a Midrange poll, on the suggestion of desktop OS400? Maybe David can orchestrate it.I honestly think, most developers would lov to have it on their desktops. - As for C.A., it's simply a wonderful Gui, EBCDIC to ASCII translation engine. Sorry, but IBM keeps trying to make their own stream, but the fish are just not coming. E&OE Ken Shields PPG Canada Inc 155 First Ave. Oshawa, Ontario L1H 7L3 PH: 905 725 1144 (326) FAX:905 433 8712 -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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