RE: I5 vs. 810 -- MIDRANGE-L

Why we're looking at an Enterprise Edition 570 vs. an 825:

- i5s should have lower maintenance costs than 8xx models.  
- Most i5s are in lower processor tiers than their 8xx equivalents.
- i5s are rack-mountable.  
- Gigabit Ethernet, base disk controller, & most system chassis features
are internal and don't use PCI-X slots.
- Better LPAR with rules-based automatic CPU & RAM allocation.  
- Better LPAR with no managing partition.  The Hardware Management
Console (HMC) used for partition management can be remotely managed and
it's availability does not impact the availablility of the i5.
- Better LPAR with disk virtualization (dedicated controllers not
required).  
- Better LPAR with true AIX support.  
- Better VLAN support.
- Better bang/buck with processor activations.
- Potentially cheaper up front cost.
- Probably lower power requirements which should lead to reduced HVAC
requirements.
- PentiumM-based IxS later this year.

And an interesting one:  Ask your reseller what the upgrade from the 810
to the 520 would cost - even if no add'l CPU power was purchased.  You
might be surprised how expensive it is.  For instance, list price on
moving from a 3-way 825 to a 1-way 570 (a net REDUCTION of 300 CPW)
costs in excess of $100K.  This would give you an idea what the next
upgrade will look like.

If the road show is hitting your area, I'd highly suggest you attend.
Lots of good info.

John A. Jones
Americas Security Officer
Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc.
V: +1-630-455-2787 F: +1-312-601-1782
John.Jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Lang [mailto:aalang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 8:24 AM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: I5 vs. 810

We had just finished up our quotes for a new 810 when the i5 was
announced.
I and my compatriot in arms have recommended to the IT Director to not
worry about the i5 and just go with the 810.

We're an insurance company with two computer people running the whole
company.  When we get our new machine, we are basically hooking it up,
transferring data and going live.  We aren't able to beat it up for a
couple months to test it first.  This is mainly why I say going with the
810 and
5r2 is the better route, because there are less surprises and our vendor
has been using this line for their application for years.

He (Director) still wants to know the "industry's" opinion on whether we
should go i5 or 810 and whether going to 5r3 is risky or not.

Do you have any feedback and/or any links for articles about this?

This is one I have found so far.
http://www.midrangeserver.com/fhg/fhg051204-story05.html

Adam Lang
Systems Engineer
Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company
http://www.rutgersinsurance.com
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