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What the heck is the deal with that? I just found out about this the other day when our SupportLine contract expired. IBM told me that Software Subscription was now bundled with SupportLine. Maybe I just don't understand the "features" of the various offerings. "SupportLine" is the one that gives me the ability to call in with operational questions like "I'm trying to set up a remote XYZ via ABC. What's the best way to go about it?" Right? "Software Subscription" is how I get the new release of my IBM products (ex. V5R3 versions when it comes out). Right? Now where does the software support come in, which Joe mentioned. Doesn't this in some cases turn out to be user error and in some cases is really defect support, i.e. "I've set up a remote XYZ via ABC and I keep getting CPFnnnn when I try to use it?" That could go either way. Sometimes I've set something up wrong. But in some cases, it is something wrong with the IBM code. Isn't that defect support and shouldn't that be free? Why should I be paying when they had a bug? And what about downloading PTFs. I been unable to download PTFs before because some contract had expired. Seems like that was LIC PTFs were tied to the hardware maintenance contract. Furthermore, I know there are some other ISVs on the list, doesn't this pretty much negate the idea of "free software" via PartnerWorld, because now if I want to have operational support for that software (i.e. SupportLine) I am also paying for my Software Subscription. Sorry to be asking this on the list. I do plan to pursue these same questions with my IBM reps, but sometimes the list is faster and more realistic. Seems like every year I feel like an idiot when I go to management with a new contract because I thought I understood how things worked and what we needed, but IBM has "repackaged" everything once again and I have no idea how it works once again. You need a full time staff just for keeping up with all the IBM contracts to run your iSeries. You may not need any systems programmers to run it but you sure do need a staff of pencil pushers. Thanks, -Marty ------------------------------ date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 22:18:31 -0600 from: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> subject: RE: Scoop on v5r3 CL enhancements Absolutely. Unbundle the supportline from my software maintenance, and use some of that money. I'll pay for support on a per-incident basis. Joe
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