I think these new CL enhancements are nice.  However it may be too late. 
I've already gotten as much away from CL as possible.  I find the 
flexibility in RPG, more functionality with the API's, etc the way to go. 
One of the main drawbacks in CL were the structure limitations, and the 
variable types with API interaction.  It does look like they are 
addressing this.
Frankly I look at RPG more of using the right tool for the job.  I 
definitely find wrapping nearly every RPG program into a CL rather silly. 
Especially with the later F spec keywords for overriding, etc.  I do think 
that some people try to stretch CL into places it really shouldn't be. 
Almost as if they are trying to write an ERP package for a shop that wants 
to modify it, but doesn't want to purchase a language compiler.
I realize that this discussion is a Jihad to some.

Rob Berendt
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I've done bucket loads of CL programming over the years, and had to
reproduce this kind of function with IFs and GOTOs.

I wish I'd had these new commands years ago, life would have been so much
easier.

What I don't understand, is why the new functionality? or why now.  The
emphasis from IBM over the last few years has been to usher us away from 
RPG
and CL and toward java and stuff.  I'm sure these new functions will be
welcomed by some developers, but I can't believe that too many people are
programming in CL any more.  Wherever I go in my job, knowledge of CL (and
even OS/400) tends to be low to non-existent.

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-----Original Message-----
From: G Armour [mailto:garmour400m@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 17 March 2004 15:44
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Scoop on v5r3 CL enhancements


Honestly don't know how big a scoop this is -- I haven't seen it prior to
this morning -- but Ted Holt writes an interesting article on the
enhancements to CL in v5r3 at 
  http://www.midrangeserver.com/fhg/fhg031704-story01.html

Don't know whether this flies under the NDA radar, but it looks like we're
getting new variable declarations, looping structures (including DOFOR,
DOUNTIL, & DOWHILE!) and SELECTion structures. 

That's all for his Part 1 article.  "In part 2 of this series, I'll tell
you about enhanced input/output, interprocess communication, and
documentation."

GA

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