RE: PTF's

Aren't the groups only a delta from the cume?
 
Thus, if you put a recent group on, without the recent cume, wouldn't you risk 
missing a pre-req that was on the cume?
 
ignorantly yours,
Tom ;)

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Urbanek, Marty 
        Sent: Sun 11/23/2003 3:43 PM 
        To: 'midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx' 
        Cc: 
        Subject: RE: PTF's
        
        

        Dennis,
        
        That's funny. I just did that a week or two ago and I was thinking 
exactly
        the opposite. I remembered the PTF installation instructions being more
        explicit for a period of time (that the PTF groups went on first) and I
        thought my most recent batch was more vague about it.
        
        I don't think it is really that critical that it be done in that 
sequence,
        unless perhaps one of the hipers corrected something that would 
otherwise
        cause you a problem during the install of the cume. Thus, putting the 
hipers
        on first would reduce the risk of some other failure during the cume.
        
        I do always wonder about the process though. Because both the PTF 
groups and
        the cume offer us the opportunity to apply other PTF packages in the 
middle
        of their process, I have often wondered why I couldn't do them all in 
one
        shot (apply cume with IPL=N, then apply group, group, group all with 
IPL=N
        until the last group, which finally gets IPL=Y).
        
        -Marty
        
        ------------------------------
        
        date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:08:15 -0600
        from: Dennis Munro <DMunro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
        subject: PTF's
        
        V5R2M0
        
        Putting on latest cume with the group ptf's & the instructions 
specifically
        state that the group ptf's go on first followed by an IPL & then the 
cume
        goes on.  I don't remember the instructions being that explicit before 
or
        did I just not see them?  I will have to say that in all the years I've 
done
        ptf's, I don't think I have ever done this process in that sequence.  I
        would hate to think I've been doing it wrong all these years but I guess
        anything is possible?
        
        Thanks - Dennis.
        
        Dennis Munro
        
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