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Rob,

Do you ascribe this to a change in focus on quality on IBM's part, or is
this just an effect of porting software to the box from lesser environments?
Microsoft has forever changed the way people look at computer problems, to
the point where even IT professionals believe that a reboot is an acceptable
way to "fix" a problem.  Is this same mentality taking over our beloved box?
It's clear that attitudes have changed....

Eric DeLong
Sally Beauty Company
MIS-Project Manager (BSG)
940-898-7863 or ext. 1863



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No virus.  But have received a lot of advice from IBM lately to either 
reboot, or restart something which is just as bad.

Rob Berendt
-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary 
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." 
Benjamin Franklin 




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And how many iSeries customers got a virus on their iSeries system and had
to pay for virus protection, download the latest update, go to every 
desktop
and run a fix and reboot the "Server" 2 or 3 times?
John Brandt

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And how many iSeries customers will run safely and happily without ever
loading them?


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And how many ptf's did IBM announce for the iSeries today?

Rob Berendt
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> Consider the source....
just a note that MS has just announced it's 1st major patch needed for
Office 2003
(corruption/lost data). I wonder if they did it with their "new 
programming
techniques"?
jim

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> > a very neat video that demos some of the new programming techniques 
and
> > languages that we will see in the next few years.
>
> Consider the source.
>
> If any prediction from the Microsloth Developer Nitwits comes to pass, 
I'm
> going to plumbers' apprenticeship school. At least as a plumber, I'll 
only
> have to deal with s--- when I'm working on waste lines or stopped-up
> toilets.
>
> --JHHL
>
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