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>> I don't get this argument. What "lost revenue"? Show me a simple hypothetical calculation showing how revenue is lost when more iSeries boxes are sold. Interesting that I saw your reaction before I saw my posting! Don't know what's not to "get" - even IBM admit this simple truth if you get them off the record. I will do the math - but you'll only argue with it. Suppose that IBM sell an iSeries to a new customer for (say) $200,000. Net profit from that is (guess) $30,000. Potential revenue from services is probably zero (lots of cheap unemployed iSeries folks). But even if we assume non-zero then it won't be a huge amount of work 'cos the box it too darn good. A pretty high estimate might be 100 hours at $250 an hour - they net (say)$125 per which means 100 X $125 or $12,500 is the net profit. Total profit is $30,000 + $12,500 = $42,500 Now suppose instead of the iSeries they sell an RS/6000 for (say) $150,000. Net profit from that is probably about -$10,000. revenue from services is huge (ask Don Rima how much difference there is in workload). Conservatively to have someone set up security, install and tune DB2, etc. etc. you are looking at 500 hours plus. So that would be 500 X $125 or $62,500. $62,500 - $10,000 = $52,500. So to sell the non iSeries box nets them $10,000 more. The really sad thing is they probably make more if they _don't_ sell the hardware and just supply the services. Agree or disagree it really doesn't matter. IBM is in the business of making money - they make most of their money through services. If a box doesn't generate much service revenue (e.g. iSeries) they aren't going to push it. Same story applies to all the so-called independent consultants who recommend systems. They will recommend the systems that drive the most services revenue. heck - how else can you explain SAP? It was designed from the ground up to be a pig to install and configure. By doing so they guaranteed the folks who recommended it massive service revenues. It is a sad state of affairs, but I'm afraid it is true whether we like it or not. Jon Paris Partner400 www.Partner400.com
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