RE: Why is the iSeries so slow-New generation in IT

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> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of McIntyre Don
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:42 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: RE: Why is the iSeries so slow-New generation in IT
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> --- Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Most have been written by
> inexperienced developers that does not understand
> application design.

Versus us old dinosaurs who have all those and English skills too.

Sorry Joe, I think it is off base to point to typo/wypos in emails, 
which are not dissertations, but this one was a little too 
funny in its placement.

  I didn't until I had many years
> under my belt.
> 
> I believe this is why we're getting so much flack
> about PC Performance versus iSeries, etc.  The new
> generation has NOT grown up with little or no system
> down time, doing upgrades or bringing down the system
> or network after hours instead of during business
> hours.    This day and age, rebooting a PC is just a
> necessary sometimes daily activity, bringing down a
> network in the middle of the day is not 
> 'out-of-the-question'..on and on..

The NT-class Win operating system, inclduing the XP, is much 
much better in this regard, though I have an HP all-in-one 
driver that whacks even XP on my home system.

My AS/400 stays up all the time, but you can't do much with it 
without a lot of detailed, batch-style programming.

Windows blows up more, but has a billion times the tools, 
particularly end-user oriented tools.

> I posted a problem situation a several days ago
> complaining about IBM & others teaching the benefits
> of front-ending the iSeries with non-iSeries platforms
> to help with security (somewhat like a Lightening Rod,
> I guess, <grin>).  There were several books mentioned
> as being good books to learn about security.  What I
> noticed is that the books are written by non-iSeries 
> professionals, that probably don't know what an iSeries is.  
> Of course I believe that Security is just as important for 
> iSeries as any other platform, but I bet that some of the 
> problems that are addressed by many of the non-iSeries 
> authors are perhaps more-necessary for the non-iSeries setup.

We found it necessary to write our own security into 
our products, with access control lists, to control printer 
access, access to fields in a database versus the whole 
record, etc., on the PC.

> My main reason for writing this post is not to put
> down the PC developer, but to address Joe's statement
> about iSeries Developers being lazy and not keeping up
> with technology as they should.  I believe that if the
> iSeries and Mainframe developers can get off their
> duff and begin learning and understanding, Web, Gui,
> Object oriented analysis & design (OOA&D), UML,
> XML....  then with our past development & business
> experience, we could really be accomplishing much more
> in the industry. 
> 
> Don McIntyre

Maybe so. 

I still have the dream of fronting our 5250 telnert 
server with an application development and hosting system, 
and then run green screen apps through the 400 that 
are actually running on the PC server.

Brad Jensen