Re: webfacing and competing products

["Jim Franz" <franz400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Not wanting to drag this out one iota, but since I did the original post...
I had no problem recognizing he (John) was a vendor from his newsletter
(words like "demo" and "30 day trial offer" are abundantly clear.
I and probably everyone else on this list take anyone's statement
about products and "filter" the comments. In my request, (which
is for a software vendor), I was looking for both end user and
software houses that have gone thru this kind of project.
(I will be taking all further conversations with "the vendors" offline).
jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:11 PM
Subject: RE: webfacing and competing products


> > From: John Myers - MM
> >
> > Gee ... how many "ads" have you run on this list and Ignite ????
>
> If someone asks, I answer, John.  And I always clearly state that I am a
> vendor.  That's all I was asking from you.
>
> newlook is probably a fine answer for some people.  I can't think of any,
> but I am biased, and say so up front.  I just wanted to make sure your
> "newsletter" was received with the same level of disclosure.
>
>
> > The greatest expense in IT today are the personnel costs.  Almost
> > everyone
> > on this list probably spends a LOT more money on technical staff than on
> > any other IT expense item.  Personnel time, whether in-house staff or
> > outside contractors, has a price.  The time that programmers take to
> > convert & test ANY webfacing product and the on-going application
program
> > maintenance is a real cost that must be included in the total
investment.
>
> Yup.  Just like the time and cost to "master newlook's advanced
recognition
> engine settings and extension/integration features".  It's all in where
you
> choose to spend your money, John.  Me, I prefer to use open standards like
> JSP which transfer to other parts of my business, but it's each client's
> choice.
>
> Anyway, I didn't mean to imply you were doing anything underhanded, not to
> in any way impugn your integrity.  I apologize if I offended.  Just trying
> to keep the playing surface level.
>
> Joe
>
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