RE: ARGH! Please make it STOP! -- MIDRANGE-L

I realise that Spam is percieved as an unwanted form of advertising, but
then any form of advertising is unwanted unless it hits the desk or
destop or doormat of the potential client at the time that the prospect
client is thinking of purchasing something.

Have you never used a money off coupon in a newspaper or pamphlet that
came through your door?

Wheher one likes it or not - spam is becoming a "traditional" method of
marketing or selling.

Your empoyer's salesman personal visits were probably the result of
someone in marketing sending out an email to lots of prospective
clients.  The internet and thus email is becoming a "conventional"
medium.

One of Global Maintech's partners I see from the Website is
MicroSoft.......

The subject of the laws on the various States within Amercia is one that
living in the United Kingdom I am fortunate enough not to have to
contend with, and they do appear - like many laws - to be made by
lawyers to cover one loophole in order for other lawyers to discover
another.

Unfortunately you get pig-headed salespeople in all areas - not just
computing who don't understand "No", just as you get other people in
other areas who refuse to budge from their stance on a subject - (no sly
comment aimed at anyone with that, eiother)

I hope that when I go about my selling I realise when people want me to
back off - and even when I try to bring up the subject of the products I
sell on this list  - if I am told to back off I will.

I hope that we haven't spanmmed you and you may consider our products
one day - I will of course only send solicited prodct information
off-list should you request it.

Jamie 




-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jay Maynard
Sent: 16 May 2003 15:45
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Cc: midrange-nontech@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: ARGH! Please make it STOP!

On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 03:18:06PM +0100, Jamie Coles wrote:
> How does Global Maintech set out to acquire new business?

(For those who haven't visited my website, Global MainTech is my
employer.
Well, one of them, now.)

They use the tradional methods of selling, ones that don't shift the
costs
to the pottential customer: advertising in conventional media, personal
visits from salesmen, partnerships with other vendors that can get our
name
in front of people who buy stuff. They do not spam, because they
understand
that irritating one's potential customers is not a good way to generate
sales.

I had this discussion with a telemarketer last night. I signed up for
Minnesota's do-not-call list the day it opened, and yet I still get
calls
due to Minnesota's porous law. (The law allows telemarketers to call if
they
do not plan to complete the sale over the telephone. In the future, if I
get
calls from such, I'm going to invite them to come to my house to discuss
the
sale, where I will then tell them no.) He said, basically, that he
continued
to call people who had expressed their desire not to get calls from
telemarketers because some might want to do business with him anyway.

I truly cannot understand the thinking of that kind of person. "Yes,
they
don't want telemarketing, but they want *my* telemarketing!" Bah. It's
even
worse for spam.

Film critic Roger Ebert wrote the Boulder Pledge a few years back in
response to spam. It states, "Under no circumstances will I ever
purchase
anything offered to me as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message.
Nor
will I forward chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus
warnings to
large numbers of others. This is my contribution to the survival of the
online community." I have taken the pledge, and hold to it religiously.

This has, by now, drifted off-topic for midrange-l. I'm cross-possting
to
midrange-nontech, and hopefully, further discussion will happen there.
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