RE: Java and Visual Basic, how to learn?

>and it is a free product

But if you're learning, neigh, ESPECIALLY if you're learning, Visual Studio
is well worth the investment. The ease and speed of programming, the help
text and intellisense are worth their weight in gold. There's nothing like
trying a variable name then a period and seeing a list of the valid methods
drop down right there. If you're new to the language that invaluable.

>Forget Visual Basic 6...

I'll agree with that. I'd look to VB.NET, but c# isn't too shabby either,
and both can be used to create thick clients or thin clients.

-Walden

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-----Original Message-----
From: David Bulog [mailto:d2ba@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:29 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Java and Visual Basic, how to learn?


Forget Visual Basic 6
VB.net or C# is the way to go and it is a free product.
You can download the .net framework and use notepad or better still
Microsoft's Web Matrix which is a good way to go if you want to do any
ASP.net or Webservices.Comes with its own web server too if IIS is
overkill on your local PC
http://www.asp.net/webmatrix/default.aspx?tabindex=4&tabid=46

Downside is to distribute any of the ASP stuff you need to run it on (a
Windows Server 2000 with IIS) as a web server

Cheers Dave




-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shannon O'Donnell
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Java and Visual Basic, how to learn?

Martin,

Yeah. I'm an unusual kind of guy...:-)

1.4 versions?!?!?   Are you nuts?  How do you count from 1 to 10 in GB?
ha!
Just kidding!!!

As you'll see in someone else's earilier post....there have been
significantly more than 1.4 versions.  It worked out to, if I remember
correctly, something like 7 or 8 versions. That's like slightly over 1
new
version a year.  My only comment to this is that VB only changes about
once
every three or four years.

But hey...I'm easy. Program in whatever language best gets the job done.

There's a reason why I learned to program in RPG, COBOL, Basic, RBasic,
Assembler, Java, VB, JavaScript, DHTML, HTML, C, C++ and other
languages.
It's so that I can use the best tool for the job.

But...for all you Java die-hards out there who wouldn't dream of using
any
other solution....more power to ya!


Shannon O'Donnell


----- Original Message -----
From: "McCallion, Martin" <martin.mccallion@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:14 AM
Subject: RE: Java and Visual Basic, how to learn?


> Shannon O'Donnell wrote:
>
> > I've programmed a lot in both Java and VB and I can tell you,
> > that, from my
> > perspective anyway, VB is way easier to learn and understand.
>
> In my experience, that is a very unusual position.  Most of the people
I
> know who have done both have clamoured to get off VB and onto Java.
>
> > Java changes versions often (REAL OFTEN!).
>
> This is, perhaps, the strangest assertion I have ever heard made about
> Java.  1.4 versions in, what, seven years?  Not goshdarned often
enough
> by a long shot, most would say.  OS/400 changes faster than Java, I
> think.
>
> Getting back to Loyd's original question, perhaps the most important
> thing that I don't think anyone has mentioned yet, is that you can run
> your Java code on your AS/400 (with the exception of any GUI elements,
> obviously).  You won't be doing that with VB in a hurry.  This may or
> may not matter for a specific project, of course.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin.
>
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