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I think that many people fight DBA's like they fight standards. Or, DBA's are good as long as I am it, but I sure wouldn't want it to be someone else. A common concern is that DBA's can slow down a project. Every simple file has to be approved by them. But the same can be said about code reviews, etc. Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@centerfieldtechnology.com> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@midrange.com 01/08/2003 12:28 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midrange.com> cc: Fax to: Subject: Re: Changing database to SQL from DDS Right on, Bruce. Forgot to say that about ERWin, forgot completely about ERStudio. I looked pretty hard at the 3 I mentioned a few years ago, in another life. I don't remember which I liked better. I think I took a brief look at ERStudio. Evaluation demos are available - I think folks here would be impressed by what they can do with these tools. Would you agree that most 400 shops have not had the DBA mentality? Programmers kind of roll their own, and there did not used to be disparate database systems in the same shop. That's changing, and tools like these can be a tremendous help. Cheers Vern At 11:08 AM 1/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Vern Hamberg" <vhamberg@centerfieldtechnology.com> >To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@midrange.com> >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:02 AM >Subject: Re: Changing database to SQL from DDS > > > > There are some good database design/modeling tools that talk iSeries. > > Popkin's System Architect is one <www.popkin.com>, Sybase's PowerDesigner > > is another (they have PowerBuilder) <www.sybase.com>, & CA's AllFusion > > Erwin Data Modeler <www.cai.com>. Popkin, for one understands both DDS and > > SQL and can engineer both, forward and reverse. > > >I would also point out that both ErWin and ERStudio currently support 400 >syntax and ErWin even asks you what version and release you are targeting. > >=========================================================== >R. Bruce Hoffman, Jr. > -- IBM Certified Specialist - iSeries Administrator > -- IBM Certified Specialist - RPG IV Developer _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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