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Right on, Bruce. Forgot to say that about ERWin, forgot completely about ERStudio. I looked pretty hard at the 3 I mentioned a few years ago, in another life. I don't remember which I liked better. I think I took a brief look at ERStudio.

Evaluation demos are available - I think folks here would be impressed by what they can do with these tools.

Would you agree that most 400 shops have not had the DBA mentality? Programmers kind of roll their own, and there did not used to be disparate database systems in the same shop. That's changing, and tools like these can be a tremendous help.

Cheers

Vern

At 11:08 AM 1/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vern Hamberg" <vhamberg@centerfieldtechnology.com>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: Changing database to SQL from DDS


> There are some good database design/modeling tools that talk iSeries.
> Popkin's System Architect is one <www.popkin.com>, Sybase's PowerDesigner
> is another (they have PowerBuilder) <www.sybase.com>, & CA's AllFusion
> Erwin Data Modeler <www.cai.com>. Popkin, for one understands both DDS and
> SQL and can engineer both, forward and reverse.


I would also point out that both ErWin and ERStudio currently support 400
syntax and ErWin even asks you what version and release you are targeting.

===========================================================
R. Bruce Hoffman, Jr.
 -- IBM Certified Specialist - iSeries Administrator
 -- IBM Certified Specialist - RPG IV Developer


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