Re: World's Cheapest Consultants -- MIDRANGE-L

Michael,

I respectfully beg to disagree, consultants are asked questions ( to which
we hope they have answers that we do not ). *Analysts* confer with users and
( or as in our situation a business Analyst sits with the programmer
analysts ). The "coder" translates specification to computer models ( and
views and controllers :) ).

To elaborate, in our last assignment, The consultant was asked a question
"What is the industry best-practice for communication security ?". He did
not ask the users what kind of reports they required or generate
requirements documentation. Our analysts talked to the customers and figured
out what kind of reports were missing and what they required to do their
jobs better. Our "coders" took the specifications and converted it into RPG.
Which is why I consult at a couple of small places, and tell them how to do
things, or where to look for answers and I am a programmer at other places
where I *do* things.

Narayanan R Pillai
Senior Technical Architect
American Medical & Life Insurance



----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael R" <michaelr_41@hotmail.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: World's Cheapest Consultants


> Argh...consultants interface with users and define and implement
> strategies...codes write code. Argh...
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> >From: "Narayanan R Pillai" <strqst400@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> >To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> >Subject: Re: World's Cheapest Consultants
> >Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:21:24 -0500
> >
> >I should probably keep my mouth shut, but I think that this is a
statement
> >that requires qualification. I am a "consultant" from India, and I have
had
> >no problems with the quality of my deliverables anywhere ( and I have the
> >papers to prove it :) ). The code cut and pasted below was delivered (
and
> >still running ) by an blue-blooded American Consultant
> >
> >C           CDAT      IFNE CONTRL
> >C                     SETON                     42
> >C                     GOTO NTFND
> >C                     ELSE
> >C                     ADD  CMTOT$    TOT$    82
> >C                     ADD  CMTOT$    BFTOT  102
> >C                     END
> >C           NTFND     TAG
> >
> >There are consultants and then there are "consultants", Origin, native
> >language and education has nothing to do with it.
> >
> >Narayanan R Pillai
> >Senior Technical Architect
> >American Medical & Life Insurance
> >
> >Indian, Consultant and bloody proud of it.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Steve Landess" <steve_landess@hotmail.com>
> >To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> >Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:41 PM
> >Subject: Re: World's Cheapest Consultants
> >
> >
> > > I'm working in a shop that's using Indian "consultants"...and from
what
> >I
> > > understand we are having difficulties with quality and deliverables...
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bob Luebbe" <bluebbe@linoma.com>
> > > To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 10:57 AM
> > > Subject: World's Cheapest Consultants
> > >
> > >
> > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > > > --
> > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > A disheartening story from Forbes for those of us that are trying to
> >make
> > > a living in the U.S.
> > > >
> > > >
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>http://www.forbes.com/2002/12/05/cz_qh_1205hp.html?partner=yahoo&referrer=
> > > >
> > > > --
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