Re: Lower End AS/400s

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Excellent response!  It is so much easier to get management to approve an
upgrade under a lease.  And when it does get obsolete you don't choke and
die on the initial price.  Sometimes we've found upgrades to actually
lower our lease.

Rob Berendt
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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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One choice for "save costs immediatly" is the IBM Leasing plans. Get the
lowest 3 year term you can get and include software subscription. When the
three years is up let it go back and get another one.   The costs are
known
up front, no surprises, and there's no capital outlay.  Plus you're always
current.



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From: midrange-l@midrange.com
Date: Thursday, December 12, 2002 05:30:32 PM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: Re: Lower End AS/400s

Syd,

We can preach this all day, but today the directive seems to be to cut
costs *immediately* and we'll worry about the additional future costs in
the future. IBM must realize that and come up w/ a plan to make money, yet
keep entry costs low.

-mark

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From: Dr Syd Nicholson sydnic@ccs400.com
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 00:05:18 +0000
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: Re: Lower End AS/400s


I have experienced this many times. The up front cost of the iSeries
seems to be expensive.

On the other hand the iSeries does not need an army of technicians to
keep it happy, to change its diaper every time it hiccups. In the longer
term, the iSeries is a much cheaper option. Windows servers possibly the
most expensive. The cost is not just the hardware, or the software, but
in the cost of additional support staff, disruption to business when
things go wrong, etc, etc.

With the increased integration built into OS/400, the iSeries is many
servers in one allowing a degree of business and application
integration that is second to none.

When comparing costs, many people only see the prices of the
hardware/software and can't see beyond it. A true review should also
include all the other ancillary costs as well (eg. staffing, training,
staff turn over, downtime, etc).
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