Re: Cheaper Servers? - Been there - done that

[Dr Syd Nicholson <sydnic@xxxxxxxxxx>]

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For a stable console - Hardwired to the box preferably. Drivers built
into the microcode. Support for standard PC type plug and play video
display at 800*600 or 1024*768, + keyboard and mouse.

This has to be better than the other new alternatives.

Last time I had a problem I was upgrading a release. 1st the com port on
the PC dissconnected and I lost the console, then after starting again,
the PC crashed half way through. Again a restart was required. Not very
impressive when your client's IT manager is looking over your shoulder.

It must get better than this!

Syd


rob@dekko.com wrote:

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>Twinax can have it's own problems.  Like a system in which we wanted no
>auto creating device descriptions, and the system values weren't doing it.
> So we renamed the command CRTDEVDSP.  However the system console died.
>Boss replaced it with a different model laying around - BIG ERROR!  First
>thing the OS does is DLTDEVDSP, followed by a CRTDEVDSP if the models are
>different.  Thus it wouldn't come up.  QINTER was down.  Remote to the
>rescue!  Used remote commands to rename the command back.  Just doing a
>little thinking outside of 5250.
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>And what would that standard display, keyboard and mouse be?
>The integrated wintel card?  Hey, even 5250 via twinax normally takes a
>special card.
>Hardwired to the box itself, like the S/38?
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>I remember when small developers were clamoring for a common tape drive. I
>thought that was a great idea.  I had no need for a 1/4" cartridge though
>but if everyone had a 3590 that would make data exchange easier.  Granted
>it would raise their prices.  Tough.  They didn't care if it raised my
>price to buy a 1/4" cartridge that I had no use for.  (I've just recently
>got rid of the $4,000 8" diskette drive.)  Now, that CD isn't a bad idea
>though.
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>Rob Berendt
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>Dr Syd Nicholson <sydnic@ccs400.com>
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>Telnet, etc always require communications (eg, TCP and Telnet servers)
>to be be active. In restricted state this not the case. IBM have tried a
>number of different convoluted routes to a terminal since moving away
>from Twin-ax. I am yet to be impressed by any of them.
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>There is nothing more irritating than loosing contact with your console
>when trying to restore a SAVSYS. And - always a PC is required, and you
>hope Windows does not crash during any key processing. It is a pain in
>the *%$&£".
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>The iSeries really does NEED to be able to talk natively to a standard
>display, keyboard and mouse. -- C'mon IBM it can't be that hard, even if
>this function is limited only to the console!!!
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>Syd Nicholson
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>rob@dekko.com wrote:
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>>Or the use of telnet or any other 5250 derivative.
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>>Rob Berendt
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>>safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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>>Dr Syd Nicholson wrote:
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>>>Even a Windows NT server has its own keyboard, mouse and display. All
>>>administration can be done on the server, it does not need any clients.
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>>>Many OS/400 features can only be accessed via Ops Nav, and another
>>>machine running Windoze is essential. We cannot administrate the server
>>>on the server. More and more IBM are taking this route.
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>>I agree with your point.  We should be able to entirely administer
>>OS/400 _without_ the use on Windows.
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